Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps).
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@c_dan4th Annécy and its lake (possibly on the way to Chamonix) are really stunning. Para-gliding down to Chamonix from the balcony below Mont Blanc could be worth a splurge.
In Paris, see the catacombs
@sgillies Oh I KNOW the catacombs are on his list! Good suggestion for Annecy.
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@feorlen His flight home is from Venice, but Trieste isn’t too far out of the way. I’ll suggest it.
@feorlen I had a conference in Venice a while back and it took me about four days before I actually liked the city. It’s such a unique place, I’m glad to have experienced it. But yeah, I’m glad I wasn’t on my own dime there!
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th Staying in Haarlem might be cheaper than AMS, and then they can bike out to the North Sea via the dune park.
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@drdirtbag I think his plan is pretty vague right now. He’s been to Europe a couple times, so he appreciates that they have History, especially compared to western USA. He’s definitely motivated by mountains, but he also wants to see cultural highlights. I think there are a couple concerts on his schedule as well.
His plan is to tour for four weeks, then hike the Alta Via 2 with a friend finishing in Venice before flying home.
@c_dan4th The mountaineers' cemeteries of Chamonix and Zermatt are worth a visit, as are their mountaineering museums. The Messner Mountain Museum in Sulden/Solda has some fascinating gear from bold first ascents. The via ferrata around the Marmolada, built for soldiers in the White War, are also thought-provoking.
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th If your kid likes old architecture Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Strasbourg/Colmar, and Luxembourg were all great to see (I visited them in my mid-20s). You can just wander around looking at all the unique buildings for free. Also public transit is free in Luxembourg which is a plus for saving money.
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th Take overnight sleeper train to get around. Also, skip Munich on the first leg and add it just before Insbruck.
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th In the Netherlands: seconding Haarlem as a lovely city and cheaper than AMS. Utrecht is beautiful and completely overlooked. Den Haag has the MC Escher museum. All NL has excellent rail services.
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th @SRLevine I was an exchange student in southern Germany 20 years ago and went back a few years later for a summer working in a lab and traveling cheaply on the weekends. Off the top of my head: Bamberg, Augsburg (the Fuggerei is interesting), Schwetzingen Palace Gardens, Basel, Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Aachen, there's a musical instrument museum in Brussels; I also like Lübeck, but that's probably too far out of the way
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@c_dan4th @SRLevine I was an exchange student in southern Germany 20 years ago and went back a few years later for a summer working in a lab and traveling cheaply on the weekends. Off the top of my head: Bamberg, Augsburg (the Fuggerei is interesting), Schwetzingen Palace Gardens, Basel, Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Aachen, there's a musical instrument museum in Brussels; I also like Lübeck, but that's probably too far out of the way
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@c_dan4th @SRLevine I was an exchange student in southern Germany 20 years ago and went back a few years later for a summer working in a lab and traveling cheaply on the weekends. Off the top of my head: Bamberg, Augsburg (the Fuggerei is interesting), Schwetzingen Palace Gardens, Basel, Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Aachen, there's a musical instrument museum in Brussels; I also like Lübeck, but that's probably too far out of the way
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Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th
He is doing the right thing to go cheap: avoid Switzerland!
(Of course there are cheaper ways here too, and, it's beautiful!)
Generally:
Stay in hostels and cook (some) of your own meals.
Maybe a train pass from eurail.
Take regional trains rather than high speed trains if the latter have mandatory reservations (TER, not TGV in France).
Check out mid-sized towns along the way rather than the big cities.
Avoid bars&clubs. Buy booze at the supermarket and go drink it outside. Have fun! -
@c_dan4th
He is doing the right thing to go cheap: avoid Switzerland!
(Of course there are cheaper ways here too, and, it's beautiful!)
Generally:
Stay in hostels and cook (some) of your own meals.
Maybe a train pass from eurail.
Take regional trains rather than high speed trains if the latter have mandatory reservations (TER, not TGV in France).
Check out mid-sized towns along the way rather than the big cities.
Avoid bars&clubs. Buy booze at the supermarket and go drink it outside. Have fun!@serac Solid advice; I’ll let him know.
He’s getting a rail pass of some sort which gives him either 7 or 10 days of unlimited travel. He already has my love and fascination with foreign grocery stores, so I imagine he’ll cook a bit. -
Kid 1 is planning a six week European wander and the default itinerary is Berlin -> Munich -> Amsterdam -> Belgium -> Paris -> Chamonix -> Innsbruck -> Venice (via a trail in the Alps). If you were a young person traveling solo trying to live cheap and see cool things, what would you see along that general route? Start and end points/dates are fixed, but everything else is TBD.
@c_dan4th what an itinerary! My advice would be to stop off at small towns between the major hubs. They are always so charming and interesting. They'll also give cheaper accommodation
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