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O … K … FINE.

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  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

    O … K … FINE. I am letting Liquid Glass onto my poor phone to get the security updates.

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    @inthehands You can turn much of it, but not all of it off. Worst update in several years.

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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      O … K … FINE. I am letting Liquid Glass onto my poor phone to get the security updates.

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      @inthehands Agree completely. My phone now wastes way too many computer cycles doing useless animated transitions. Went through all of the settings and choices seem to be limited to "animated bouncy, slidey, zoomy" transitions and cross-fade transitions--I don't want either. Plus the new big round buttons and keyboard take up way more of the screen than before. Who asked for this???

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        O … K … FINE. I am letting Liquid Glass onto my poor phone to get the security updates.

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        @inthehands Did this a week ago. Turned on accessibility features to hide the liquid glass itself and have been submitting bug reports to Apple because it breaks *basic* functionality.

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        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

          O … K … FINE. I am letting Liquid Glass onto my poor phone to get the security updates.

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          So I am now living the Liquid Glass Horror, and…it’s not what I expected.

          Based on the screenshots and the complaints, I was expecting special effects overkill, a phone trying to look like a PS5 game trying to look like Minority Report.

          But…

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          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

            So I am now living the Liquid Glass Horror, and…it’s not what I expected.

            Based on the screenshots and the complaints, I was expecting special effects overkill, a phone trying to look like a PS5 game trying to look like Minority Report.

            But…

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            @inthehands Much of the hand-wringing about Liquid Glass makes me roll my eyes. People need better hobbies.

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            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

              So I am now living the Liquid Glass Horror, and…it’s not what I expected.

              Based on the screenshots and the complaints, I was expecting special effects overkill, a phone trying to look like a PS5 game trying to look like Minority Report.

              But…

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              …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

              The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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              • tantramar@zeroes.caT tantramar@zeroes.ca

                @inthehands Much of the hand-wringing about Liquid Glass makes me roll my eyes. People need better hobbies.

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                @tantramar
                Then you won’t like my reply

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                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                  …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

                  The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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                  Please take a moment to study this horrifying screenshot.

                  Ask:

                  - What here is negative space?
                  - What is information-bearing space?
                  - What space is neither of the above: usefully conveys no information, but adds visual noise?

                  And…wtf is that horizontal gray bar doing there?!

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

                    The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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                    @inthehands thats how I describe it exactly. It just feels (and behaves) cheap.

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                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                      …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

                      The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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                      @inthehands It reminds me of the Enlightenment linux desktop from the 90s, when everything had to be transparent for the awesome screenshots, before turning everything down again to be able to actually use the computer.

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                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                        @tantramar
                        Then you won’t like my reply

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                        @inthehands There are, of course, edge cases and poor decisions. There always are.

                        But it’s mostly… fine?

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                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                          Please take a moment to study this horrifying screenshot.

                          Ask:

                          - What here is negative space?
                          - What is information-bearing space?
                          - What space is neither of the above: usefully conveys no information, but adds visual noise?

                          And…wtf is that horizontal gray bar doing there?!

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                          @inthehands also square inside squircle inside oval with rectangle selection and...

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                          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                            Please take a moment to study this horrifying screenshot.

                            Ask:

                            - What here is negative space?
                            - What is information-bearing space?
                            - What space is neither of the above: usefully conveys no information, but adds visual noise?

                            And…wtf is that horizontal gray bar doing there?!

                            scott@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @inthehands The way you’re asking these hard hitting questions… it’s almost like you are an interface detective. And just like real detectives, you write your notes on clear glass panes in the middle of the office so you can see “through” the notes to the rest of the office or even out the window! That’s what I’ve learned about how real detectives operate from every tv crime drama. I think Apple just finally caught up to best practices (for fictional tv detectives).

                            🤪🤪🤪

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                            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                              Please take a moment to study this horrifying screenshot.

                              Ask:

                              - What here is negative space?
                              - What is information-bearing space?
                              - What space is neither of the above: usefully conveys no information, but adds visual noise?

                              And…wtf is that horizontal gray bar doing there?!

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                              @inthehands it is an embarrassing pile of garbage and I’m kind of surprised they haven’t just rolled it back.

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                Please take a moment to study this horrifying screenshot.

                                Ask:

                                - What here is negative space?
                                - What is information-bearing space?
                                - What space is neither of the above: usefully conveys no information, but adds visual noise?

                                And…wtf is that horizontal gray bar doing there?!

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                                Let’s remove that clearly-a-bug gray bar. Better.

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                                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                  …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

                                  The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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                                  @inthehands assuming you've tried setting "reduce transparency" and "increase contrast"? I'm pretty severely visually impaired, and was scared of the new interface, but those two settings seemed to obviate almost all of the liquid glass crap. That said, I completely agree with you that it was a stupid Apple move, and Apple's been de-prioritizing usability for quite a while I think

                                  Edit: also, dark mode may help. Not sure because I can't see the screen enough to tell what's going on unless it's in dark mode, but you might wanna give that a try. I could see enough of your screenshot to tell your screen was in light mode. But again, I completely agree with you: you shouldn't have to screw around with a bunch of settings to avoid all the liquid glass horrors, especially since liquid glass serves no obvious purpose other than to, well I can't figure out what purpose it might serve actually

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                                  • dandean@indieweb.socialD dandean@indieweb.social

                                    @inthehands it is an embarrassing pile of garbage and I’m kind of surprised they haven’t just rolled it back.

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                                    @inthehands the Home Screen of the Preview app is a particular mess. Weird background things stacked on top of each other that you can’t even tap. Just clutter.

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      Let’s remove that clearly-a-bug gray bar. Better.

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                                      Now look at what •should• be negative space around the address bar and X button (highlighted in the second image). Does it add any useful information? No. Does it make the screen visually harder to parse? Yes.

                                      My dudes, what are you even.

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                                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                        Now look at what •should• be negative space around the address bar and X button (highlighted in the second image). Does it add any useful information? No. Does it make the screen visually harder to parse? Yes.

                                        My dudes, what are you even.

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                                        Let’s turn those gaps into actual negative space. Better.

                                        The margins are all screwy here still. The layout manages to be waste space •and• still somehow be too tight. And don’t even get me started on having •two• “X” buttons right next to each other that do completely different things! But hey…I’m just some rando with an image editor and 10 minutes, and I’ve managed to bring it halfway back to looking as good as the previous iOS version.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          …it’s not even that. It’s just ugly. Bad layouts. Bad margins. Bad proportions. Awkward animations. Flickers and flashes. Content peeking through all the negative space so that the screen is filled with visual noise. It feels designed by committee. It feels pasted together.

                                          The feel of Apple products has covered a lot of ground over the decades. They’ve felt elegant. They’ve felt basic. They’ve felt bauble-y and cute. They’ve felt futuristic. They’ve felt practical. But this is the first time I can recall an Apple product feeling •cheap•.

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                                          @inthehands My biggest objection to things like this is less about how things look and more about how unnecessary User Interface changes affect my flow state. For me for iOS 26, this was 95% about Safari.

                                          For anyone else affected this way, the good news is you can quickly make Safari mostly like iOS 18 by switching to "Bottom" layout.

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