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“Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks.

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  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

    “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

    Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

    This is the future.

    China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

    https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
    #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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    @chris

    What an amazing story. I had no idea. I'll be looking a little closer at BYD from now on.

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    • gsymon@mstdn.socialG gsymon@mstdn.social

      @chris

      What an amazing story. I had no idea. I'll be looking a little closer at BYD from now on.

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      @gsymon it is a really well written article isn’t it!?

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      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

        @gsymon it is a really well written article isn’t it!?

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        @chris

        Well... I read the entire thing. Word by word. That doesn't happen often these days. 😊

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        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

          “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

          Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

          This is the future.

          China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

          https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
          #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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          @chris Amazing story. Perhaps unsurprisingly, BYD overtook Ford last year in units sold. Geely overtook Honda and is just behind Ford.

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          Top 10 car makers by sales, 2025

          These are official figures from the manufacturers, not made-up ones that certain other websites and "AI" are claiming.

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          Autocade World (autocade.world)

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          • gsymon@mstdn.socialG gsymon@mstdn.social

            @chris

            Well... I read the entire thing. Word by word. That doesn't happen often these days. 😊

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            @gsymon @chris The funny thing about it is how strongly it’s based on fundamentals. “Do a good job. Make it work. No, really work.”

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            • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

              @chris An innovative take on batteries that makes them safer, an alternate view on electric vehicles from a country that understands the importance of sustainability. BYD cars look interesting and I can't wait to see one in the wild - and other manufacturers' - available as alternatives to the F-150 Lightnings or Tesla iPhones-on-wheels 'domestic' manufacturers think we all crave.

              But eyes wide open. The issue with China has always been in their treatment of labour. This article gives me visions of nets mounted to the exterior walls of factories.

              Human + Fixture = Robot

              Robots are not only used to replace the cost of human lavour - sometimes they're used to remove humans from dangerous environments.

              Electrode material was being ladled out of vats with kitchen spoons. Workers in rubber gloves operated machines that looked like repurposed sewing equipment.

              Plus this article reads like an ode to Wang Chuanfu who clearly sees himself as the next Elon Musk, moving fast and breaking things.

              Just my 2p.

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              @zazzoo @chris he sounds more like a move fast and fix things… moving fast is always a risk, and not always the best course of action but western, especially American, manufacturing has far too much form for not moving at all, not changing anything and happily continuing to produce known dangerous products.

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              • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

                Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

                This is the future.

                China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

                https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
                #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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                @chris "Do not settle for a plausible explanation. Demand a reproducible one."

                Heck yes.

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                • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                  @breathOfLife @chris That's all fair, but I was speaking less about specifics of their education/background than their approach to business. Just based on this article, Wang appears to be a move-fast-and-break-things disrupter.

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                  @zazzoo @breathOfLife @chris where do you get that? He seems incredibly methodical, and incredibly patient. There’s none of zuckerberg’s get rich quick shit going on.

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                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                    “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

                    Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

                    This is the future.

                    China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

                    https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
                    #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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                    @chris wow. This is exciting.

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                    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                      @vxo i can only speculate that it is a supply chain issue

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                      @chris @vxo

                      Like the financialization of slavery, as described in Banking on Slavery by Sharon Ann Murphy, the fossil fuel industry's finances & politics are as deeply entrenched.

                      We still live with the legacy of slavery on behalf of the Epstein Class nearly 200 years later.

                      Disentangling the fossil fuel industry is equally daunting.

                      The oil industry amplifies each difficulty of the EV industry & is relentless in its payoffs to political parties & business leadership.

                      Malign influence.

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                      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                        @vxo i can only speculate that it is a supply chain issue

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                        @chris @vxo

                        One of the issues is new technology.

                        Solid-state batteries is one tantalizing edge. Another is a substantial change away from silicon.

                        And many of the break-throughs are patented by fossil fuel industry. And no, they are not letting anyone develop them.

                        So the current bleading edge is literally patenting ways to work around the newly claimed patents.

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                        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                          @zazzoo totally agree. That is why we have to lean in as Canadians. The fact is China is the leader and we must learn from a tech and manufacturing perspective, but we also must find ways to influence and impact that country so that the conditions of all workers, not just those in these high tech spaces, are safe and treated as workers should be treated.

                          Too long we have been using China as our cheap work shop and hypocritically lambasting them for the way they treat workers and claiming they produce “cheap stuff”. Yet here we are buying it for 40 years.

                          We need to turn that on its head, grow up, and work *with* them. Form real partnerships that can then demand and improve the working conditions and human rights.

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                          @chris @zazzoo

                          Well said.

                          My sibling has one of their cars (over 2 years now) and absolutely loves it.

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                          • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                            “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

                            Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

                            This is the future.

                            China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

                            https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
                            #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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                            @chris wouldnt work. The entire point of the tariffs is to courage them to make the batteries here. Why would they build them here if it can be built in china and transported here?

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                            • I idiot300@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @chris wouldnt work. The entire point of the tariffs is to courage them to make the batteries here. Why would they build them here if it can be built in china and transported here?

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                              @idiot300 same reason Japanese makers build cars in North America. Once the supply chains are in place, it's cheaper to manufacture closer to the end point of sale.

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                              • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                “Wang Chuanfu, BYD’s CEO, barely slept for weeks. Three passengers, all in their twenties. His chemistry. His cell. His company’s name on the casing. He had not built it to kill anyone, but it had. He pulled his engineers together with one question: What is the mechanism by which this cell fails, and how do we make that physically impossible”

                                Someone needs to get this article in front of Mark Carney and Doug Ford and then the stupid limits on Chinese cars need to be eliminated so Canada can start building these things immediately.

                                This is the future.

                                China is leading that future and we need to come to terms with it and use our influence to make it, and them, better.

                                https://www.fastcompany.com/91519302/byd-nail-test-why-this-54-billion-innovation-is-terrifying-western-auto-executives?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
                                #climateEmergency #climatechange #byd #china #canada #canpoli

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                                @chris This article re: BYD was fascinating (except for the zero work-life balance score)! It pairs very well with @Markham's discussion re: Alberta, and parochial blinders to energy (bitumen/oil) as technology, not commodity:
                                https://youtu.be/VNIzJI7ST24

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