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  • max@poliverso.orgM max@poliverso.org

    @veronica @paulk

    I think the claim is true.

    The final price paid by most of us is an average of all energy prices and it raises up as an effect of oil price raise.

    However, the price of solar and wind energy don't increase.

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    @max That's pretty much what I said though. Except that your last sentence isn't true. The price increases, the production cost is less affected.

    @paulk

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    • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

      @max That's pretty much what I said though. Except that your last sentence isn't true. The price increases, the production cost is less affected.

      @paulk

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      @max For the record, my political opinion is that it should be as you say. Electricity should be sold reasonably close to cost, and regulated as such, not traded on exchanges where the goal is to maximise profit. Energy is a common good and an essential resource.

      @paulk

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      • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

        @paulk Yeah, I hate living in a world where everything gets evaluated against short term economic gain and everything else seems to be irrelevant when all is said and done. It will be the downfall of our era. At the very least, I hope future generations can make better choices. Ours seems not to be able to in any way that really matters.

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        @veronica I severely dislike the fact that we live in the era of Homo Shareholder which has to be pleased with pofits and bonuses without any consideration of the future of even their own offspring...

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        • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

          @veronica I severely dislike the fact that we live in the era of Homo Shareholder which has to be pleased with pofits and bonuses without any consideration of the future of even their own offspring...

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          @paulk ๐Ÿ’ฏ

          Thankfully, the company I work for is publicly owned, so the shareholder profit goes back to the people in our area, and our municipal budgets.

          Edit: The government adds a 45% tax on the natural resource usage, in addition to the 22% corporate tax, so a good deal also goes to the big tax bucket.

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          • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

            @paulk ๐Ÿ’ฏ

            Thankfully, the company I work for is publicly owned, so the shareholder profit goes back to the people in our area, and our municipal budgets.

            Edit: The government adds a 45% tax on the natural resource usage, in addition to the 22% corporate tax, so a good deal also goes to the big tax bucket.

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            @veronica Taxes and breathing, the two things you can't live without, it seems. Still, your employer sounds like a good place. Congratulations on moving there.

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            • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

              @veronica Taxes and breathing, the two things you can't live without, it seems. Still, your employer sounds like a good place. Congratulations on moving there.

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              @paulk The previous energy company I worked at was state owned, so the same applied there. Otherwise I may not have lasted in this industry. ๐Ÿ˜…

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              • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                @paulk The previous energy company I worked at was state owned, so the same applied there. Otherwise I may not have lasted in this industry. ๐Ÿ˜…

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                @veronica You chose well!

                Glad you did and persisted, or novelWriter might not have existed. (I currently have 8 projects active in there.)

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                • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

                  @veronica You chose well!

                  Glad you did and persisted, or novelWriter might not have existed. (I currently have 8 projects active in there.)

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                  @paulk You may say you're paying for it indirectly over your electricity bill. ๐Ÿ˜

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                  • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                    @paulk You may say you're paying for it indirectly over your electricity bill. ๐Ÿ˜

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                    @veronica ๐Ÿคฃ !!!

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                      @kDelta @dans @paulk @harld

                      Despite meeting a fraction of our energy demands, gas sets the price 85% of the time I read this week. We have to drive out our reliance on that final amount - which is why rightwing parties funded directly or indirectly by fossil fuel interests constantly tell us we have to use every โ€˜cubic centimetre of gas left in the North Seaโ€™โ€ฆbut we donโ€™t actually domestically even use what we extract from there.

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                      • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                        @max That's pretty much what I said though. Except that your last sentence isn't true. The price increases, the production cost is less affected.

                        @paulk

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                        @veronica @paulk

                        Do you think that people having solar panels on their roof will pay something more this month to convert solar radiation hitting their panels into electricity?

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                        • max@poliverso.orgM max@poliverso.org

                          @veronica @paulk

                          Do you think that people having solar panels on their roof will pay something more this month to convert solar radiation hitting their panels into electricity?

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                          @max Moving the goal post doesn't make your claim about "the price of solar and wind energy don't increase" any more correct. The price is the price. If you don't pay it, then that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

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                          • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

                            Retoot for @harld with #Alttext

                            #energy #Renewables

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                            @paulk @harld
                            Yes but it miss the juicy synergy with the defence /war industry .

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                            • euval@mastodon.topE euval@mastodon.top

                              @paulk @harld
                              Yes but it miss the juicy synergy with the defence /war industry .

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                              @euval Too bad for the war people. I don't care.

                              @harld

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                              • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

                                Retoot for @harld with #Alttext

                                #energy #Renewables

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                                @paulk @harld

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