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It's mine, I tell you.

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  • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

    I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

    They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

    bix@chaos.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #41

    @jonty “but can I visit you and try to find the right key?”

    But how did BT solve this problem, their engineers surely didn’t carry all possible keys around?

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    • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

      I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

      They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

      jamesbridle@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #42

      @jonty I feel like you know many, many lock pickers who will see this as a challenge.

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      • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

        I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

        They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

        dtl@8bitorbust.infoD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #43

        @jonty got to like a company that provides a reason.

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        • bix@chaos.socialB bix@chaos.social

          @jonty “but can I visit you and try to find the right key?”

          But how did BT solve this problem, their engineers surely didn’t carry all possible keys around?

          patterfloof@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #44

          @bix @jonty surely they had master keys, maybe a handful, but not enough they needed a van full of keys

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          • jamesbridle@mastodon.socialJ jamesbridle@mastodon.social

            @jonty I feel like you know many, many lock pickers who will see this as a challenge.

            jonty@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #45

            @jamesbridle I am torn between wanting some friends to have fun and wanting a functioning payphone quickly

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            • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

              @jonty My sister is 14 years younger than me, and when I said "oh what you've never used a payphone?" she said "Yeah well I've never sent a telegram either" and I crumbled to dust

              (then I showed her how pretty phonecards used to be and made her jealous of those, but I'm not sure I won the exchange)

              mair@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #46

              @rixx @jonty the... telephone exchange?

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              • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

                lpbkdotnet@mstdn.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #47

                @jonty I think those are all for the customer-premises types of payphone (solitaire etc) - they all seem to be tubular locks

                I'm not sure about the generation you've got, but earlier payphone keys wereregional, so each telecom region had their own set of bittings.

                I expect yours is similar, so if there is any way to narrow down where it was originally installed - and then you try some of the ex-BT staff facebook groups, you might luck out and find someone who didn't return their keys?

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                • lpbkdotnet@mstdn.socialL lpbkdotnet@mstdn.social

                  @jonty I think those are all for the customer-premises types of payphone (solitaire etc) - they all seem to be tubular locks

                  I'm not sure about the generation you've got, but earlier payphone keys wereregional, so each telecom region had their own set of bittings.

                  I expect yours is similar, so if there is any way to narrow down where it was originally installed - and then you try some of the ex-BT staff facebook groups, you might luck out and find someone who didn't return their keys?

                  jonty@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #48

                  @lpbkdotnet Yep, we realised that too!

                  This phone came from Bath (we've even found the phonebox), but I'm not sure I can be bothered to chase engineers. We know the lock was changed in 2007 as we did some keyhole surgery to extract the logbook.

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                  • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                    Do I have the keys? No. Can we pick the lock? Also no.

                    dngrs@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #49

                    @jonty hook it up to a landline, insert coin, call the lockpicking lawyer

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                    • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                      I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                      They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

                      extelec@mstdn.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jonty Send them the payphone... 🙂

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                      • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                        @jamesbridle I am torn between wanting some friends to have fun and wanting a functioning payphone quickly

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                        #51

                        @jonty @jamesbridle Can't they just have fun, then replace with a lock you have keys for? (Based on the assumption that it is like most locks that allow replacement when open.)

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                        • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                          @becomethewaifu Oh wait, you meant on the phone not in the background! No, that's just an LCD sadly.

                          I do have a Canadian payphone with a VFD in it which looks cool as hell

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                          @jonty @becomethewaifu yeah; if I remember correctly, the LCD was used to display call duration, time left, and -- if it took phone cards -- credit remaining. But it's been a while, so...

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                          • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                            @sa I have an entire box of ATAs, don't worry - the main problem is going to be getting into the damn thing as we don't have keys!

                            The fun problem is going to be reverse engineering the firmware to figure out the phone-home configuration protocol, if you fancy helping with that

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                            @jonty @sa presumably it's not going to recognise modern coinage, so I wonder if there's a way to reconfigure it for that...

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                            • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                              It's mine, I tell you. My own. My precious.

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                              @jonty

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                              "Making a long-distance phone call."

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                              • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                It's mine, I tell you. My own. My precious.

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                                #55

                                @jonty what I can offer is that if you put 20p in, then whack it hard just under the key pad, your 20p comes out and the credit remains!

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                                • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                  I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                                  They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

                                  emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jonty challenge lock for the lock people that come to emf?

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                                  • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                    @lpbkdotnet Yep, we realised that too!

                                    This phone came from Bath (we've even found the phonebox), but I'm not sure I can be bothered to chase engineers. We know the lock was changed in 2007 as we did some keyhole surgery to extract the logbook.

                                    lpbkdotnet@mstdn.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jonty Oh it's that one!

                                    I had wondered who won it.

                                    Unfortunately, although I do know a few current and ex engineers from the westcountry, none of them were in Bath as far as I know.

                                    However, I "might" know someone who knows someone... It may come to nothing, but it can't hurt to ask.

                                    I had previously asked someone who I know used to steal cash from payphones in the early 90s how they got in

                                    Unfortunately their methods were horrifically destructive - so not a suitable approach here!

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                                    • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                      I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                                      They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

                                      nicoduck@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #58

                                      @jonty aren't these all tubular keys and your phone has a "normal" key?

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                                      • nicoduck@chaos.socialN nicoduck@chaos.social

                                        @jonty aren't these all tubular keys and your phone has a "normal" key?

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                                        @nicoduck Correct! They have now concluded that they aren't allowed to sell us a key, but could unlock it for us.

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                                        • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                          I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                                          They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

                                          boreq@chaos.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @jonty that is a really cool response

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