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I don’t care what political side you’re on, anyone who is weird about any immigrants including H-1B workers is not a good ally.

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  • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

    @skinnylatte

    H1B fraud looks like employers underpaying workers & locking them into lower pay by not allowing them to accept a better position elsewhere.

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    @FranceskaMann that describes almost every immigration program for almost every country. Including the ‘good ones’. Severe restrictions and fewer rights than citizens

    H-1B isn’t perfect but it’s also not the low wage mill described in the popular imagination

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    • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

      @FranceskaMann that describes almost every immigration program for almost every country. Including the ‘good ones’. Severe restrictions and fewer rights than citizens

      H-1B isn’t perfect but it’s also not the low wage mill described in the popular imagination

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      @skinnylatte @FranceskaMann

      Canada is very frank about viewing non citizens as cash machines. If you generate enough value you get to stay another year. And it better be full time with an entity that pays employment tax.

      I hear that if you're francophone (pale variety) "strong ties to French culture" is actually taken into consideration by their immigration.

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      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

        I don’t care what political side you’re on, anyone who is weird about any immigrants including H-1B workers is not a good ally. You don’t get to only support the immigrants you like who might not ‘take your well paid job’.

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        @skinnylatte I'm mostly grumpy that it seems to not be a very fast path to citizenship.

        like, it sucks to have so much of the city be full of people who aren't allowed to vote.

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        • eestileib@tech.lgbtE eestileib@tech.lgbt

          @skinnylatte @FranceskaMann

          Canada is very frank about viewing non citizens as cash machines. If you generate enough value you get to stay another year. And it better be full time with an entity that pays employment tax.

          I hear that if you're francophone (pale variety) "strong ties to French culture" is actually taken into consideration by their immigration.

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          @eestileib @skinnylatte

          I'm a francophone of the pale variety 🤔

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          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

            @FranceskaMann that describes almost every immigration program for almost every country. Including the ‘good ones’. Severe restrictions and fewer rights than citizens

            H-1B isn’t perfect but it’s also not the low wage mill described in the popular imagination

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            @skinnylatte

            We all deserve better

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            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

              I’ve seen so many BS excuses about H-1B fraud from leftists that’s just thinly veiled racism and xenophobia and nationalistic economic protectionism

              Those people make frothing at the mouth republicans seem more friendly. At least they’re not pretending to be your friend

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              @skinnylatte specially I know a chinese trans woman who was severely impacted by this bullshit and was unable to find a job due to the current political climate in US

              and what it means for a trans woman if she have to go back to China is very obvious

              yet westerners are still keep telling me about how people like her should just go back to China because she'd be "exploited" and have "less rights" in US

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              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                I’ve seen so many BS excuses about H-1B fraud from leftists that’s just thinly veiled racism and xenophobia and nationalistic economic protectionism

                Those people make frothing at the mouth republicans seem more friendly. At least they’re not pretending to be your friend

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                @skinnylatte In my experience most "Enlightened" white westerners tend to be anti-immigrant at some level but always find good reasons for their bigotry and ignorance. It's tiring.

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                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                  I don’t care what political side you’re on, anyone who is weird about any immigrants including H-1B workers is not a good ally. You don’t get to only support the immigrants you like who might not ‘take your well paid job’.

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                  @skinnylatte As an H1-B worker I proved the viability of a project that was at risk of being cancelled, leading to the immediate hiring of forty local engineers - and many more over the years.

                  The company was struggling to break even. The project gave them a five dollar per unit profit boost, for around a hundred million units per year.

                  I know I'm not unique in bringing specialized skills at critical times, I knew many at this company, all working closely with American engineers who have the system-wide knowledge essential to create finished products.

                  Governments can choose to view immigration as a tool for US productivity, or close it down in an act of performative isolationism. I guess the country gets what they vote for.

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                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                    I’ve seen so many BS excuses about H-1B fraud from leftists that’s just thinly veiled racism and xenophobia and nationalistic economic protectionism

                    Those people make frothing at the mouth republicans seem more friendly. At least they’re not pretending to be your friend

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                    Frankly I’m tired of many leftists and liberals pretending their anti-H1B rants are praxis instead of just anti-immigrant / Indian sentiment

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                    • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                      Frankly I’m tired of many leftists and liberals pretending their anti-H1B rants are praxis instead of just anti-immigrant / Indian sentiment

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                      @skinnylatte What's their problem with H1B visas?

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                      • deanfarrell@mstdn.plusD deanfarrell@mstdn.plus

                        @skinnylatte What's their problem with H1B visas?

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                        @DeanFarrell they think we should reduce international immigration because H1Bs empower billionaires to fuck over Americans.

                        Which is true, but their solution also involves fucking over immigrants.

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                        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                          @DeanFarrell they think we should reduce international immigration because H1Bs empower billionaires to fuck over Americans.

                          Which is true, but their solution also involves fucking over immigrants.

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                          @skinnylatte If workers from India are more qualified to do the job than Americans are, it's the result of the GOP's 50-year war on education.

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                          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                            Frankly I’m tired of many leftists and liberals pretending their anti-H1B rants are praxis instead of just anti-immigrant / Indian sentiment

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                            I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                              I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                              @skinnylatte well, one of those goes east-west and one goes north-south, based on numbering conventions

                              (very /s)

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                              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                                @skinnylatte the ideas that muricans that never went through the process have is quite mind-boggling ...

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                                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                  I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                                  @skinnylatte ⬆️This.

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                                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                    I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                                    @skinnylatte hopefully my strong “immigration is good, should be way easier, and we should do way more of it” absolves me.

                                    It’s amazing how many clear correlations exist in America’s history that we just refuse to see, not least of which is how beneficial immigration is, especially when it’s a free for all

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                                    • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                      I don’t care what political side you’re on, anyone who is weird about any immigrants including H-1B workers is not a good ally. You don’t get to only support the immigrants you like who might not ‘take your well paid job’.

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                                      @skinnylatte I'm tired of the "good migrant" / "bad migrant" discourse. I've heard it several times and once someone told me I was on the good side. I didn't responded the way they wanted 🤣

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                                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                        Frankly I’m tired of many leftists and liberals pretending their anti-H1B rants are praxis instead of just anti-immigrant / Indian sentiment

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                                        @skinnylatte Say what you will about liberals but that doesn't sound like a left position. The left is concerned with employers abusing the H1B program to drive wages down and create precarity for their employees in general. Our system has created a terrible situation for workers on behalf of oligarchs through years of corruption where many people are very close to desperation. Sorry if this is offensive but if you didn't know I hope you can consider this perspective.

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                                        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                          I sometimes think you don’t get to have strong opinions on US immigration unless you know the difference between an I-129 and I-140

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                                          @skinnylatte This should honestly be the case in every country that has these policies. If a UK denizen starts spouting to the news about immigration, the first question should be "are you familiar with the difference between leave to remain and citizenship?"

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