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  3. "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology".

"AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology".

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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    @tante ah, yes, that oldest, most profound technology: communication. One might think we’d offer it some fucking respect.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      It's also deeply funny how software developers label the thing deskilling them "skills".

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      @tante Must be a skills issue.

      Or a meta-skills issue. These are skills, too, right?

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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        @tante Where did you see a well-documented genAI system?

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        • movation@fnordon.deM movation@fnordon.de

          @tante usually I scoff at TV advertising for men's cosmetics because it *has* to have "technology" somewhere...

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          @movation Men's razor blade ads have the technology of counting to four or five or somewhere like that as the attractant.

          @tante

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          • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

            @tante ah, yes, that oldest, most profound technology: communication. One might think we’d offer it some fucking respect.

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            @c0dec0dec0de @tante literally what people pay me very good money for lol

            Just not in Germany

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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              @tante @octothorpe I have found it a little maddening how hard it was to convince anyone to spend time on internal documentation but now that it feeds the machine...

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              • ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU ultranurd@tacobelllabs.net

                @tante @octothorpe I have found it a little maddening how hard it was to convince anyone to spend time on internal documentation but now that it feeds the machine...

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                @ultranurd @tante Yuuuup. A corollary to this is my recent snark toot about slop coding existing waaaay before AI. It’s tough to write good shit when your paycheque is dependent on an environment impossible to do that.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  It's also deeply funny how software developers label the thing deskilling them "skills".

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                  @tante And the "personality" "souls.md".

                  They are haivng a laugh, aren't they?

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                  • ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU ultranurd@tacobelllabs.net

                    @tante @octothorpe I have found it a little maddening how hard it was to convince anyone to spend time on internal documentation but now that it feeds the machine...

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                    @ultranurd @tante @octothorpe

                    I didn't even think about this part. Urgh...

                    Well, a lot of people get their "skills" off of github without checking them and it's several times led to bad things happening or in the case below, almost happening.

                    https://www.aikido.dev/blog/agent-skills-spreading-hallucinated-npx-commands

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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                        @tante

                        > "AI" skills are basically just documentation

                        It really feels like your posts are coming from an alternative universe where coding AIs are not useful.

                        > developers label the thing deskilling them "skills"

                        What's happening to devs with the good coding AIs like Antigravity can be understood quite well as moving up into management with a team under them.

                        Yes, that leads in a direction where you don't need to pay so many meatbags. But "deskilled"? I don't think so.

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                        • hopeless@mas.toH hopeless@mas.to

                          @tante

                          > "AI" skills are basically just documentation

                          It really feels like your posts are coming from an alternative universe where coding AIs are not useful.

                          > developers label the thing deskilling them "skills"

                          What's happening to devs with the good coding AIs like Antigravity can be understood quite well as moving up into management with a team under them.

                          Yes, that leads in a direction where you don't need to pay so many meatbags. But "deskilled"? I don't think so.

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                          @hopeless everything is "useful" to someone for some purpose. "but it's useful" is not a good argument because it doesn't say who gets which benefit and who suffers what cost

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            @hopeless everything is "useful" to someone for some purpose. "but it's useful" is not a good argument because it doesn't say who gets which benefit and who suffers what cost

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                            @tante Coding AIs have been thoroughly, unmistakably useless as recently as early 2025.

                            Something happened in Q4 2025 and now, generally, they are fast and useful for things you would have had to do yourself (if you even could). It's just a demonstrable fact.

                            This is "progress" / naked capitalism, people will use it because it works, companies mandate it in the hopes of shedding expensive meatbags.

                            Nobody is going to send you or I a survey on who should "benefit and suffer what cost".

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              "AI" skills are basically just documentation and it says something about how documentation only gets resources and respect if it is framed as "technology". Which has gender bias all over it.

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                              @tante This is something that has been driving me insane. For my entire career getting people to write some documentation about what is going on and now the industry is spending all its time writing markdown??

                              Real monkey's paw wish granted there for me.

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