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It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US.

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  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

    @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 Will/can openwrt eliminate any hdware spy that Gov could require?

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    @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

    any hdware spy that Gov could require?

    although the way this is worded, your precise meaning is a little unclear.

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    • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

      @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

      provided the "spy" is software based, not hardware based. If it's hardware based, then all you can do it is not use the device. Find some other device, if one exists. I'm sure that as the situation develops more info about hardware will begin to come to the fore in the news as public consciousness shifts.

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      @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 That's what I thought, it's been years since I used DD-WRT. I suspect it's a whole new software by now. Getting to old for all the changes, part of the reason I won't own a cellphone. I just don't like the idea of a leash . . . 8*)

      Peace

      Thanks.

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      • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

        @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

        any hdware spy that Gov could require?

        although the way this is worded, your precise meaning is a little unclear.

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        @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 You got just what I was asking. . . Again Thanks

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        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

          @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 You got just what I was asking. . . Again Thanks

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          @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

          security down to the components on the board itself is such a deep rabbit hole to dive down. I mean how trustworthy or truly impartial are the chi-coms, in the end? They've been making all our shit for 40+ years now. How do we know they haven't backdoored the shit out of things they sell down at the component level? Some things you just can't know with any certainty in this world, sadly.

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          • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

            It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

            This is looking increasingly like a trap.

            Link Preview Image
            FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

            Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

            favicon

            Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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            @VeroniqueB99 Brendan Carr needs his ass paddled on live television.

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            • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

              @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 That's what I thought, it's been years since I used DD-WRT. I suspect it's a whole new software by now. Getting to old for all the changes, part of the reason I won't own a cellphone. I just don't like the idea of a leash . . . 8*)

              Peace

              Thanks.

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              @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

              yeah DD-WRT days were a long time ago. Install is as easy as uploading an image via the web interface in the stock firmware then reboot. Done. Updates for complicated setups can be complicated, but for basic wifi router it's as simple as it gets. A few clicks, reboot, done..

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              • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

                @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                security down to the components on the board itself is such a deep rabbit hole to dive down. I mean how trustworthy or truly impartial are the chi-coms, in the end? They've been making all our shit for 40+ years now. How do we know they haven't backdoored the shit out of things they sell down at the component level? Some things you just can't know with any certainty in this world, sadly.

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                @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 The only folks I have any trust in are the Linux/open software folks. I suspected that it would be a simple install at this point, I started with Linux in the mid 90's, often any more I'm making things way to complicated . . . 8*)

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                • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                  @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 That's what I thought, it's been years since I used DD-WRT. I suspect it's a whole new software by now. Getting to old for all the changes, part of the reason I won't own a cellphone. I just don't like the idea of a leash . . . 8*)

                  Peace

                  Thanks.

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                  @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                  way less fuckery than with cell phones. I run lineageOS on all my phones. I put up with the pain and the fuckery for the first 3 (motorolas). Now I just get pixel phones and have zero fuckery because the bootloaders are trivial to unlock, and designed to be unlocked. Motorolas- almost trivial.. and like a honda civic or toyota camry, great bang for the buck. same is true of pixel phones. good value for the $$$

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                  • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

                    @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                    way less fuckery than with cell phones. I run lineageOS on all my phones. I put up with the pain and the fuckery for the first 3 (motorolas). Now I just get pixel phones and have zero fuckery because the bootloaders are trivial to unlock, and designed to be unlocked. Motorolas- almost trivial.. and like a honda civic or toyota camry, great bang for the buck. same is true of pixel phones. good value for the $$$

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                    @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 I started out with TeleType, when they put computers in that tiny little box, computers that were far more complex that the 8080-86's I just sort of gave up. . . 8*)

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                    • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                      @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 That's what I thought, it's been years since I used DD-WRT. I suspect it's a whole new software by now. Getting to old for all the changes, part of the reason I won't own a cellphone. I just don't like the idea of a leash . . . 8*)

                      Peace

                      Thanks.

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                      @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                      just get a phone that's well supported by lineage os. android that's been de-googled, and is absent all the google fuckery ain't that bad to use. more free space internally with the google cruft gone and better battery life because the phones not constantly doing shit behind your back you are unaware of and might not approve of. Also- data lines to google are stripped out of the OS. You can put them back if you wish, but by default they aren't there.

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                      • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                        @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 That's what I thought, it's been years since I used DD-WRT. I suspect it's a whole new software by now. Getting to old for all the changes, part of the reason I won't own a cellphone. I just don't like the idea of a leash . . . 8*)

                        Peace

                        Thanks.

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                        @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                        even older pixels are still quite good hardware. no need to buy the current generation for $1000+ pixels are so ahead of the curve you can get one 3-4 gens older than current and still have a very modern phone whose hardware will last you a long long time before becoming obsolete.

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                        • shwell@mastodon.auS shwell@mastodon.au

                          @VeroniqueB99 For those unaware, a PC can be used for routing. But PC's have had their own spyware chip since about 2010 (IME). A better solution is a fast Rasp. Pi (No spychip).

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                          @shwell @VeroniqueB99 agree.

                          The instructions are out there (this is an older variant)

                          Use Raspberry Pi 3 As Router : 10 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables https://www.instructables.com/Use-Raspberry-Pi-3-As-Router/

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                          • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                            @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @VeroniqueB99 I started out with TeleType, when they put computers in that tiny little box, computers that were far more complex that the 8080-86's I just sort of gave up. . . 8*)

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                            @A_Minion @VeroniqueB99

                            yeah I was at that point in the 2000's when social media was being born. All seemed like a waste of time to me. Still does, but that was one of those forks in the road of tech where it seemed like a lot of wheels were being re-invented needlessly and resources wasted, and fuckery abounding. Ditto with early smart phones. But both matured, eventually. Still, those transitions are painful. Old wisdom gets forgotten. Perhaps it was always thus.

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                            • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

                              It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

                              This is looking increasingly like a trap.

                              Link Preview Image
                              FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

                              Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

                              favicon

                              Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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                              @VeroniqueB99

                              Cuz it is indeed…

                              The time to resist is now, because tomorrow its might be too late…

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                              • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

                                It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

                                This is looking increasingly like a trap.

                                Link Preview Image
                                FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

                                Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

                                favicon

                                Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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                                @VeroniqueB99
                                One might run OpenBSD / FreeBSD / NetBSD and free himself. Or maybe use pfsense as a commercial product you can trust.

                                #openbsd #freeb #netbsd #pfsense

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                                • mudala@mastodon.socialM mudala@mastodon.social

                                  @VeroniqueB99
                                  One might run OpenBSD / FreeBSD / NetBSD and free himself. Or maybe use pfsense as a commercial product you can trust.

                                  #openbsd #freeb #netbsd #pfsense

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                                  @mudala @VeroniqueB99

                                  #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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                                  • as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeA as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @mudala @VeroniqueB99

                                    #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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                                    @as400 @VeroniqueB99
                                    Naahhh...where did you read that? That would be a reason to switch to OpenBSD for sure. I mean...I'm floored right now §8-(

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                                    • brianallbee@mastodon.socialB brianallbee@mastodon.social

                                      @shwell @VeroniqueB99 agree.

                                      The instructions are out there (this is an older variant)

                                      Use Raspberry Pi 3 As Router : 10 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables https://www.instructables.com/Use-Raspberry-Pi-3-As-Router/

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                                      @BrianAllbee @VeroniqueB99 Thanks very much. I note the US aren't touching WAP's for now which is my solution.

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                                      • as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeA as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @mudala @VeroniqueB99

                                        #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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                                        @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Last I knew, #FreeBSD adopted an official policy rejecting AI/LLM patch submissions. They announced that policy last year at the FreeBSD Developer Summit.

                                        Can you provide a git commit hash or a link to LLM slop in FreeBSD?

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                                        • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

                                          @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Last I knew, #FreeBSD adopted an official policy rejecting AI/LLM patch submissions. They announced that policy last year at the FreeBSD Developer Summit.

                                          Can you provide a git commit hash or a link to LLM slop in FreeBSD?

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                                          @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 there is no such policy. core is currently considering what our LLM policy should be, they did not announce it yet.

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