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  • kir@mastodon.unoK kir@mastodon.uno

    @infobeautiful I'm not against the message, but I don't think this particular infographic works really well.

    A kg. of, say, carrots is in no way comparable to kg. of coffee or beef when looking at calories and nutrients.
    So what's the message supposed to be?

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    @Kir @infobeautiful yeah. Maybe calories would be a better metric, if the goal is to compare (but that would make coffee meaningless). Hard to capture all in a single image.

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    • kir@mastodon.unoK kir@mastodon.uno

      @infobeautiful I'm not against the message, but I don't think this particular infographic works really well.

      A kg. of, say, carrots is in no way comparable to kg. of coffee or beef when looking at calories and nutrients.
      So what's the message supposed to be?

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      @Kir @infobeautiful Also have you seen the land people keep sheep on around here? It's practically vertical.

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      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

        The land footprint of food

        Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
        by @EurCorrespond

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        @infobeautiful surprised not to see chicken on there

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        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

          The land footprint of food

          Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
          by @EurCorrespond

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          @infobeautiful Giving absoluite numbers is highly questionable. Cows may live in cages or on pastures. Pigs can even live in multi-story buildings, but I know them living in little styes. Is their food counted in? What if the food is human food scraps? A lot of questionmarks here.

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          • technicaladept@techhub.socialT technicaladept@techhub.social

            @infobeautiful surprised not to see chicken on there

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            @technicaladept @infobeautiful Also some major crops missing like wheat, corn, soybeans

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            • kir@mastodon.unoK kir@mastodon.uno

              @infobeautiful I'm not against the message, but I don't think this particular infographic works really well.

              A kg. of, say, carrots is in no way comparable to kg. of coffee or beef when looking at calories and nutrients.
              So what's the message supposed to be?

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              @Kir @infobeautiful compared to rain forest coffee plantations use less water so we should cut down the rain forest to save water.

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              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                The land footprint of food

                Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                by @EurCorrespond

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                @infobeautiful

                Wheat? Corn? (A bunch of that is used for fuel, I guess.)

                @Seirdy

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                  @GlasWolf @signaleleven @Kir @infobeautiful I wouldn’t even know how to calculate the calories in coffee. Do you eat the beans or make it into a drink?

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                  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                    The land footprint of food

                    Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                    by @EurCorrespond

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                    @infobeautiful, there's one thing blatantly obviously missing from that: time. Without that, it has to be asked whether that 87.8m² of land is permanently and irrevocably allocated to that 1kg of cheese, and why haven't we run out of land yet…

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                    • technicaladept@techhub.socialT technicaladept@techhub.social

                      @infobeautiful surprised not to see chicken on there

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                      @technicaladept

                      This.

                      @infobeautiful

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                      • paija2021@toot.lvP paija2021@toot.lv

                        @technicaladept @infobeautiful Also some major crops missing like wheat, corn, soybeans

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                        @Paija2021 @technicaladept @infobeautiful soybeans aren’t listed but Tofu is. It’s made from soybean milk.

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                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                          The land footprint of food

                          Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
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                          @infobeautiful

                          One might grow a kilo of tomatoes on that land but the fertilizer needed is not included

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                          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                            The land footprint of food

                            Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                            by @EurCorrespond

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                            @infobeautiful Then I should have 4 times more sausages than cheese! 🤓
                            Does that footprint include water consumption? Since tomatoes need a lot of it, to have a good yield

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                            • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                              The land footprint of food

                              Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                              by @EurCorrespond

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                              @infobeautiful I am curious about the land usage per calory of some of theses, like between carrot and potatoes. On the other hand, I don't eat coffee or cheese for its calories :3

                              thanks for sharing, it's a nice way to show things

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                              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                The land footprint of food

                                Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                                by @EurCorrespond

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                                @infobeautiful somebody please tell me how to grow 1kg of carrots on 30cm²

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                                • kir@mastodon.unoK kir@mastodon.uno

                                  @infobeautiful I'm not against the message, but I don't think this particular infographic works really well.

                                  A kg. of, say, carrots is in no way comparable to kg. of coffee or beef when looking at calories and nutrients.
                                  So what's the message supposed to be?

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                                  @Kir @infobeautiful also how in the hell do you omit chicken?

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                                  • cimb4@norden.socialC cimb4@norden.social

                                    @infobeautiful somebody please tell me how to grow 1kg of carrots on 30cm²

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                                    @CIMB4 0.3 of a 100×100 cm (= 1 m²) square would be a an area the same as 30×100cm rectangle, which is 3 000 cm²

                                    @infobeautiful

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                                    • ianturton@mapstodon.spaceI ianturton@mapstodon.space

                                      @Kir @infobeautiful compared to rain forest coffee plantations use less water so we should cut down the rain forest to save water.

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                                      @ianturton @Kir @infobeautiful heard this one, very good. As usual with MoL, the lesson is, it’s not as simple as the viral stat seems.

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                                      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                        The land footprint of food

                                        Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                                        by @EurCorrespond

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                                        @infobeautiful Most ecosystems need a large grazer species or they go away, and so does nigh-everything adapted to live there.

                                        The human-centric "land area to feed humans" is, well, yet more mass extinction, rather than virtue.

                                        Yes, open-loop farming practices are terrible things and should be replaced with more responsible practices. This is not the same thing as an argument that beef is unbearably agriculturally expensive or that agricultural monoculture is a desirable use of land.

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                                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                          The land footprint of food

                                          Source: https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
                                          by @EurCorrespond

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                                          @infobeautiful I want chocolate!

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