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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @_tillwe_ @feorag Thus ignoring the only sensible reason for going with maglev—sheer speed over long distance routes, competing with jet airliners—and ignoring that local transport needs to be cheap or free to get people out of their cars.

    (Also, they don't seem to remember what happened to Transrapid. Oops.)

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    @cstross @feorag My guess: Friedrich Merz' frame of reference is 1998-2002, the year Merkel replaced him as chairperson of the CDU parliamentary party. Everything after this time is an error, to be ignored or corrected. (Or as one person in another thread on this asked: can I have back Grunge, too?).

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    • _tillwe_@mastodon.social_ _tillwe_@mastodon.social

      @cstross @feorag My guess: Friedrich Merz' frame of reference is 1998-2002, the year Merkel replaced him as chairperson of the CDU parliamentary party. Everything after this time is an error, to be ignored or corrected. (Or as one person in another thread on this asked: can I have back Grunge, too?).

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      @_tillwe_ @feorag There *might* be something I don't know—the new Chinese rare earth magnets this century have revolutionized car drivetrains, so they might no longer need superconductors for schwebebahn (i.e. light rail) applications?—but I doubt it's anything as forward-thinking as that, coming from the CDU.

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        @cstross @feorag My guess: Friedrich Merz' frame of reference is 1998-2002, the year Merkel replaced him as chairperson of the CDU parliamentary party. Everything after this time is an error, to be ignored or corrected. (Or as one person in another thread on this asked: can I have back Grunge, too?).

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        @_tillwe_ @cstross @feorag That is Merz in a nutshell. I am, however, still flabbergasted every time another one of his ministers and coathangers falls into the same rut. Some of them are barely fourty or even younger.

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        • feorag@wandering.shopF feorag@wandering.shop

          Re: last boost. The German transport minister would like to see maglevs back.

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          @feorag Considering the dire performance of Deutsche Bahn and the national embarrassment that is Stuttgart Hbf, approaching almost English levels of incompetence, they might want to start small. Dieselgate also showed how overrated German engineering is.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            @_tillwe_ @feorag There *might* be something I don't know—the new Chinese rare earth magnets this century have revolutionized car drivetrains, so they might no longer need superconductors for schwebebahn (i.e. light rail) applications?—but I doubt it's anything as forward-thinking as that, coming from the CDU.

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            @cstross @tillwe@mastodon.social @feorag the same clown posse also wants nuclear power back, along with "high efficiency combustion engines" and "green gas" power plants.

            All their ideas are from the 80ies at best.

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            • feorag@wandering.shopF feorag@wandering.shop

              Also, this word meaning (I think) “Public Transport Financing Act” - Gemeindeverkehrsfinanzierungsgesetzes

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              @feorag

              "Municipal Traffic Financing Act"

              Not necessarily about Public Transport only, I'd say.

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              • jollyorc@social.5f9.deJ jollyorc@social.5f9.de

                @cstross @tillwe@mastodon.social @feorag the same clown posse also wants nuclear power back, along with "high efficiency combustion engines" and "green gas" power plants.

                All their ideas are from the 80ies at best.

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                @jollyorc @cstross @_tillwe_ @feorag In my ever so humble opinion, the problem with nuclear power is that we implemented it long before we figured out how to do it safely, cleanly, and with proper disposal/re-use of the waste. Then, because it was online and monetized, we never bothered to figure out those things.

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  @_tillwe_ @feorag Thus ignoring the only sensible reason for going with maglev—sheer speed over long distance routes, competing with jet airliners—and ignoring that local transport needs to be cheap or free to get people out of their cars.

                  (Also, they don't seem to remember what happened to Transrapid. Oops.)

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                  @cstross @_tillwe_ @feorag I guess this is just a gadgetbahn where it's purpose is to stall invesment in trams and local trains?

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                  • jollyorc@social.5f9.deJ jollyorc@social.5f9.de

                    @cstross @tillwe@mastodon.social @feorag the same clown posse also wants nuclear power back, along with "high efficiency combustion engines" and "green gas" power plants.

                    All their ideas are from the 80ies at best.

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                    @jollyorc @cstross @_tillwe_@mastodon.socia@feorag@wandering.shop I understand that people get Oh-New-Shiny fascination around new tech, but once you build it, it's often a lot less sparkly and exciting and needs to integrate into existing infrastructure. Thus, you end up with a single maglev train in Shanghai that could do 450 kph, but only does 300 in normal service and is surprisingly wobbly at speed. Hydrogen trains with reliability issues and hydrogen cars without infrastructure for a road trip.
                    The boring bit would be to invest into the build-out of cost-effective things, like solar and wind power; trams and commuter rail services. Not sexy-shiny but actually usable.

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                    • jollyorc@social.5f9.deJ jollyorc@social.5f9.de

                      @cstross @tillwe@mastodon.social @feorag the same clown posse also wants nuclear power back, along with "high efficiency combustion engines" and "green gas" power plants.

                      All their ideas are from the 80ies at best.

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                      @jollyorc @cstross @_tillwe_ @feorag Abandoning nuclear because you’d rather burn brown coal sure is a choice. But at least consumers pay through the nose.

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