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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

    I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

    davebiff@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mattblaze His RISKS digest was always interesting (and often alarming). RIP

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    • E eigen@mattstodon.panar.ooo

      @mattblaze I'm unfamiliar with him/his work; could you maybe provide a tiny summary or pointer to his confrontations with unreliability? That sounds like an interesting topic

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      @eigen @mattblaze It's surely "somewhere in here." I think reading some will give you an idea. I recall an election result off by 4096 (or some power of 2) votes. I read comp.risks off and on for years, then decided to stop as I was having vague nightmares.
      https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/

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      • E eigen@mattstodon.panar.ooo

        @mattblaze I'm unfamiliar with him/his work; could you maybe provide a tiny summary or pointer to his confrontations with unreliability? That sounds like an interesting topic

        mkoek@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @eigen @mattblaze found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_G._Neumann

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        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

          You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

          I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

          megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mattblaze https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/obituaries/peter-g-neumann-dead.html

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            @futuresprog @mattblaze

            Had a few things published in RISKS in a former life.

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            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

              You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

              I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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              @mattblaze I felt so strongly when a feature I implemented was featured in the risks digest! (We emailed forgotten password in plaintext back to the user; it was the 90s!) I loved reading that and his authoritative assessment of it all.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                @mattblaze comp.risks came as a revelation to me when I first stumbled onto the listserv in 1989.

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                @cstross @mattblaze I was working mainly DoD stuff then and loved all talk of digitizing the up to then mostly analog systems. Many of the issues was all the analog safety feedback mechanisms not being implemented at all in the digital controllers.

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                  I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                  @mattblaze Peter will be missed. BTW, for some years, I worked in the same building as Peter, but in a different group. He was always pleasant and, of course, highly competent.

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                    I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                    @mattblaze I subscribed to his RISKS forum back in the early 80s (yes, I am old).

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                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                      You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                      I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                      @mattblaze I hadn't heard. His long life and contributions should be celebrated!

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                        I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                        @mattblaze I am so sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace and his memory be a blessing.

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                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                          You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                          I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                          @mattblaze I consider PGN one of my mentors. Such an interesting fella. He will be missed...terrible puns and all.

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            You may have heard that Peter Neumann passed away yesterday at the age of 93.

                            I cannot do his memory and legacy justice here, but I will say that his work (and friendship and support) influenced almost everything I've worked on. He was one of the first computer scientists to confront (well before it was popular to do so) the fact that computers and software are unreliable in both theory and practice.

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                            Peter’s NYT obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/obituaries/peter-g-neumann-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jVA.pDm5.QUlwAMJBQtDV

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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              Peter’s NYT obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/obituaries/peter-g-neumann-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jVA.pDm5.QUlwAMJBQtDV

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                              @mattblaze a giant gone. Damn

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                              • davebiff@mas.toD davebiff@mas.to

                                @mattblaze His RISKS digest was always interesting (and often alarming). RIP

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                                @davebiff @mattblaze Peter once told us about an incident where an X-ray machine killed a patient. Its snazzy GUI got a lot of testing for sequences of inputs, but when used by a technician, the inputs came in much faster. There was a race condition resulting in an inappropriate configuration. Peter mentioned the lack of sanity checks - the patient complained about feeling warm and the technician ignored that, passing it off as babbling.

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                                • cigitalgem@sigmoid.socialC cigitalgem@sigmoid.social

                                  @mattblaze I consider PGN one of my mentors. Such an interesting fella. He will be missed...terrible puns and all.

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                                  @cigitalgem @mattblaze
                                  RISKS Digest was most likely my initial exposure to IT security, back in the late 80s.
                                  What a legend.

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