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I know what—I have an even worse business plan!

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  • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @redsakana @cstross Hm, I did not think of the other way around. Makes sense though.

    I will keep an eye out for financial commentary.

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    @zarfeblong @redsakana @cstross yes, SpaceX is a home for X AI (and X) because it's got revenue and demand already, so it can paper over some of the financial mess. But SpaceX is already way overvalued because launch demand from non-Starlink sources has not picked up, and Starlink while profitable is close to its maximum addressable market already (there are not a billion extra Starlink users to be found.)

    I think Patrick Boyle did an OK job walking through it in this video: https://youtu.be/8rS3fTbC7TE

    The combination of Space and AI keeps retail interest high to try to get into the indexes in an accelerated schedule before reality hits.

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    • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

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      @zarfeblong @cstross Except that Musk wants to build his own chip fab (with blackjack and hookers (probably literally with blackjack and hookers)), so he’d have no need of Nvidia in his completely baked fantasy world.

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      • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

        @cstross I seem to remember an Asimov (?) story about something similar with ultra dangerous for power generation but even Asimov picked the back side of the moon not deep space.

        It would be kind of poetic justice though if a space based Musk data centre got taken out by a stray starlink.

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        @etchedpixels @cstross I remember one about a bio research lab in space that's deemed too dangerous, so they send it into the sun, but because the researcher kills himself inside his experiment it starts leaking space-resistant spores just when it crosses earth's orbit...

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        • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

          ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
          ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
          ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
          ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

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          @zarfeblong So wait, AI in space chip. So that’s just a chip without the need for the probabilistic “temperature” factor used in LLMs because you’ll get that for free from cosmic radiation?

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

            I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

            Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

            /s

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            @cstross What about a giant fusion reactor that is so big WE orbit IT? You could use photovoltaic cells to capture visual radiation and generate power, without worrying about microwave transmission dangers.
            Just a thought.

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            • dtraslerwriting@mastodon.socialD dtraslerwriting@mastodon.social

              @cstross What about a giant fusion reactor that is so big WE orbit IT? You could use photovoltaic cells to capture visual radiation and generate power, without worrying about microwave transmission dangers.
              Just a thought.

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              @Dtraslerwriting Psst: go back and read the whole thread from the start. (Before me.)

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                @Dtraslerwriting Psst: go back and read the whole thread from the start. (Before me.)

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                @cstross What, HOMEWORK? Damn! And I thought I was first....

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                  @landley For a while, I figured Twitter was paying its way by providing a pre-sorted data feed for the AI company. (The tulip-craze money comes easier if you can say “Look at all the training data users give me out of the goodness of their hearts!”)

                  You're probably right that that's run its course though.

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                    @Mschatelaine @zarfeblong @cstross lol. Here's your 500 nm chip with 3x ECC running at 800 MHz. $$$

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                    • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                      @cstross I seem to remember an Asimov (?) story about something similar with ultra dangerous for power generation but even Asimov picked the back side of the moon not deep space.

                      It would be kind of poetic justice though if a space based Musk data centre got taken out by a stray starlink.

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                      @etchedpixels @cstross Back side of the moon?! Do you want to get Space: 1999?! Because that’s how you get Space: 1999!

                      (And as I’m typing this I realize that people once thought we’d could have extensive moon bases before the end of the 20th century…)

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