I'm not sure why some seem obsessed with having the proposed high-speed rail station for Ottawa located downtown - like a nostalgic throw-back to when the current Senate of Canada building was Ottawa Union Station.
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I'm not sure why some seem obsessed with having the proposed high-speed rail station for Ottawa located downtown - like a nostalgic throw-back to when the current Senate of Canada building was Ottawa Union Station.
That ship sailed long ago. Since then the building has been repurposed, the rails torn up and the rail corridors taken over by streets and the LRT's Confederation Line - a line that has a platform at the already-existing Ottawa Station, making it an ideal place to transfer between LRT, high-speed rail and slower regional VIA passenger service.
Just thinking out loud.
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I'm not sure why some seem obsessed with having the proposed high-speed rail station for Ottawa located downtown - like a nostalgic throw-back to when the current Senate of Canada building was Ottawa Union Station.
That ship sailed long ago. Since then the building has been repurposed, the rails torn up and the rail corridors taken over by streets and the LRT's Confederation Line - a line that has a platform at the already-existing Ottawa Station, making it an ideal place to transfer between LRT, high-speed rail and slower regional VIA passenger service.
Just thinking out loud.
@zazzoo I think it's the same downtown property owners who demand council orient every discussion around subsidizing the Market and forcing every public servant to eat lunch at their crappy price-jacked restaurants.
"Me, me, me" say the downtown commercial landlords...
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I'm not sure why some seem obsessed with having the proposed high-speed rail station for Ottawa located downtown - like a nostalgic throw-back to when the current Senate of Canada building was Ottawa Union Station.
That ship sailed long ago. Since then the building has been repurposed, the rails torn up and the rail corridors taken over by streets and the LRT's Confederation Line - a line that has a platform at the already-existing Ottawa Station, making it an ideal place to transfer between LRT, high-speed rail and slower regional VIA passenger service.
Just thinking out loud.
@zazzoo while it would be great to have the hsr station right downtown (as opposed to Tremblay), the logistics vs cost is ludicrous.
However, the hsr and lrt stations must coexist if at Tremblay. The distance between them has to be walkable in less than 5 minutes with two suitcases in a climate controlled / protected passage.
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@zazzoo while it would be great to have the hsr station right downtown (as opposed to Tremblay), the logistics vs cost is ludicrous.
However, the hsr and lrt stations must coexist if at Tremblay. The distance between them has to be walkable in less than 5 minutes with two suitcases in a climate controlled / protected passage.
@human3500 Tremblay station is far less than a 5 minute walk to the main VIA station. To me it's an ideal place. I think it's important for the train station to have parking, at least for now, because so little of this city is serviced by reliable public transport. For anybody outside of Centretown, downtown is a pain to get to.
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@zazzoo I think it's the same downtown property owners who demand council orient every discussion around subsidizing the Market and forcing every public servant to eat lunch at their crappy price-jacked restaurants.
"Me, me, me" say the downtown commercial landlords...
@johnefrancis Enough. They got extra cops. Shut up for another year, I say.
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@zazzoo while it would be great to have the hsr station right downtown (as opposed to Tremblay), the logistics vs cost is ludicrous.
However, the hsr and lrt stations must coexist if at Tremblay. The distance between them has to be walkable in less than 5 minutes with two suitcases in a climate controlled / protected passage.
An underground link would definitely be a good idea (I don't recall there being one) — something as big and bright and easy as the under-lake link at Billy Bishop, with moving sidewalks (but perhaps without the annoying ads). We are a winter country, after all.
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I'm not sure why some seem obsessed with having the proposed high-speed rail station for Ottawa located downtown - like a nostalgic throw-back to when the current Senate of Canada building was Ottawa Union Station.
That ship sailed long ago. Since then the building has been repurposed, the rails torn up and the rail corridors taken over by streets and the LRT's Confederation Line - a line that has a platform at the already-existing Ottawa Station, making it an ideal place to transfer between LRT, high-speed rail and slower regional VIA passenger service.
Just thinking out loud.
I get the feeling that the downtown station obsession is a distracting quibble for people who don't really want high-sped rail (and probably don't use existing snail rail much either.
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An underground link would definitely be a good idea (I don't recall there being one) — something as big and bright and easy as the under-lake link at Billy Bishop, with moving sidewalks (but perhaps without the annoying ads). We are a winter country, after all.
@hamishb @human3500 The engineers already struck underground off the option list. When constructing the subway portion of Line 1 they discovered there's a lot more sand than previously thought mixed in with all that solid Canadian Shield our city's built on.
How the Rideau Street sinkhole opened up critical rifts in LRT deal between city, RTG | CBC News
The Rideau Street sinkhole in 2016 not only delayed construction on Ottawa's troubled Confederation Line, it damaged the relationship between the city and the light rail line's builder so severely that it could haunt passengers for decades to come.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
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@hamishb @human3500 The engineers already struck underground off the option list. When constructing the subway portion of Line 1 they discovered there's a lot more sand than previously thought mixed in with all that solid Canadian Shield our city's built on.
How the Rideau Street sinkhole opened up critical rifts in LRT deal between city, RTG | CBC News
The Rideau Street sinkhole in 2016 not only delayed construction on Ottawa's troubled Confederation Line, it damaged the relationship between the city and the light rail line's builder so severely that it could haunt passengers for decades to come.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Thanks for the info!
I'm lucky enough to still have family in Ottawa so I always get picked up/dropped off and hadn't realized how close Tremblay is until I checked the satellite view. Just needs a little more canopy.
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I get the feeling that the downtown station obsession is a distracting quibble for people who don't really want high-sped rail (and probably don't use existing snail rail much either.
@hamishb Probably true. Poilievre's people, I call them. I previously snarked about the land of weaponized flags that loosely follows highway 7 from PP's (former, lol) Carleton riding and cuts a diagonal line through Eastern Ontario and ends around Oshawa. This is home to his most rabid devotees and the path of the proposed Ottawa-Toronto high speed line. So yeah, he's suddenly so concerned about land appropriations for a mass transit service now when he doesn't give a damn about them if it's for an oil pipeline project that benefits on handful of private bank accounts out west.
Sorry, am I ranting? Yes, I think I am.
