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Just read another big tech post about the future of software engineering.

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  • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tobychev what are you talking jumping in here with MTG??

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    • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

      People are always gonna read this kind of thing as "shrill" or whatever so please picture me saying this in a super bored, calm, chill voice which is accurate. There's always a contraction around who gets to speak first and loudest when things are about The Future

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      @grimalkina There's no tone you could possibly take that would render acceptable the fact you're pointing out! ❤️

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      • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

        In this piece I wrote several years ago I had a ton of stories that could've illustrated feeling excluded from creativity in tech, but I used this story about not being given access to a makerspace specifically because it was so evocative to me! So on the nose

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        My grandpa -- my Missouri grandpa, who played slide guitar to me when I got homesick on the rare occasions I stayed with them -- grew up on a farm without electricity. He went past eighth grade, which really mattered to him. He loved that I played harp, which he always called "elegant," in an extremely Missouri accent, an accent that hugged every syllable. Since living in California, I never hear this way of speaking. Recently I heard his accent on TV and cried unexpectedly, ugly crying, startli

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        @grimalkina

        Absolutely agree with your most compelling tale.

        And the arrogant self-centered egotistical definition of "craft" as, effectively "software work isn’t like other work, and we shouldn’t be judged the same way. We are entirely unique." That's just obviously a bunch of lame excuses.

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          @grimalkina

          Absolutely agree with your most compelling tale.

          And the arrogant self-centered egotistical definition of "craft" as, effectively "software work isn’t like other work, and we shouldn’t be judged the same way. We are entirely unique." That's just obviously a bunch of lame excuses.

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          @grimalkina

          But I have long considered myself to be a "software craftsman." (craftsperson)

          I define "software as a craft" as

          "We produce something that is both useful and beautiful."

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          • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

            @grimalkina

            But I have long considered myself to be a "software craftsman." (craftsperson)

            I define "software as a craft" as

            "We produce something that is both useful and beautiful."

            …

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            @grimalkina

            "Computer Science" not really a "science," because we're not discovering the fundamental computing and software development truths of the universe. We dreamed up and designed all this software and hardware. it works the way we *designed* it. It's not a discovery process.

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            • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

              @grimalkina

              "Computer Science" not really a "science," because we're not discovering the fundamental computing and software development truths of the universe. We dreamed up and designed all this software and hardware. it works the way we *designed* it. It's not a discovery process.

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              @grimalkina

              Our "Computer Science" is built on the mathematics of Turing Machines.

              But we have built and used many computing devices that do not comply with that model. Many early computers did not. Analog computers do not.

              And the "bleeding edge" of quantum computing, which may prove highly useful also violates the model assumptions of our formal mathematical "Computer Science."

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                @grimalkina

                Our "Computer Science" is built on the mathematics of Turing Machines.

                But we have built and used many computing devices that do not comply with that model. Many early computers did not. Analog computers do not.

                And the "bleeding edge" of quantum computing, which may prove highly useful also violates the model assumptions of our formal mathematical "Computer Science."

                …

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                @grimalkina

                Also, to continue with my answer to the old question,

                "Is computing/software development an Art or a Science?"

                It's not an Art either.

                Automation and software exist *primarily* to do something useful.

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                So, "not Art and not Science" leads me to say that our work is a "Craft," because it must be both useful and "beautiful."

                Where "beautiful" is largely a way of expressing how useful, maintainable, reliable, and other such positive attributes.

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                • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                  In this piece I wrote several years ago I had a ton of stories that could've illustrated feeling excluded from creativity in tech, but I used this story about not being given access to a makerspace specifically because it was so evocative to me! So on the nose

                  Link Preview Image
                  On Craft

                  My grandpa -- my Missouri grandpa, who played slide guitar to me when I got homesick on the rare occasions I stayed with them -- grew up on a farm without electricity. He went past eighth grade, which really mattered to him. He loved that I played harp, which he always called "elegant," in an extremely Missouri accent, an accent that hugged every syllable. Since living in California, I never hear this way of speaking. Recently I heard his accent on TV and cried unexpectedly, ugly crying, startli

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                  @grimalkina thank you for sharing this really interesting piece of writing.

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                  • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

                    @grimalkina

                    But I have long considered myself to be a "software craftsman." (craftsperson)

                    I define "software as a craft" as

                    "We produce something that is both useful and beautiful."

                    …

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                    @JeffGrigg I like that!

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                    • grimalkina@mastodon.socialG grimalkina@mastodon.social

                      When people are scared as everyone in tech is, people also cling more fiercely to the things that feel safer. More Technical feels safer and that means your demographics contract. I genuinely think people do not realize this is happening in their decision making

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                      @grimalkina This is exactly why I don't take people who despise AI very seriously. I mean sure there are legit reasons to not use AI in certain situations, but at the end of the days they come across like old boomers yelling at clouds. It's not attractive at all.

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