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  • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

    @dougmerritt Interesting ... Are you one of today's 10 thousand?

    I have another question that is easy to grasp once you get the idea, but I've found no easy way to describe it.

    I might start another thread. It's about questions where the number of people who know the answer is mid range, but the reactions of everyone is astonishment that anyone else would or would not know the answer.

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    @dougmerritt But it's late here and I have an early start tomorrow. I might leave it for now.

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    • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

      Michelangelo?
      Rodin?
      Turner?
      Ramanujan?

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      @ColinTheMathmo (polling a 4th and a 6th grader) Dr. Seuss (Theodore something) . Milton Hershey. Galileo. Frida Kahlo. Plato. Socrates. Aristotle. Homer. Julius Ceasar. Nero. Commodus. Caligula. Augustus Caesar. Napolean. Blackbeard. Neil Armstrong. Shakespeare. Alexander Hamilton. Queen Elizabeth the 1st. Queen Elizabeth the 2nd. Adolf Hitler. George Washington. Abraham Lincoln. Theodore Roosevelt. Thomas Jefferson. Eliza Hamilton. Aaron Burr. Leonardo DaVinci. Lafayette. Lucille Ball. The Wright Brothers. Walt Disney. Nicola Tesla. Thomas Edison. Vincent Van Gogh. And they're bored now.

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      • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

        Do you know a young person?

        Ask them what famous people they've heard of from before 1950 and let me know.

        For example: Einstein? Marie Curie? Cleopatra? Donatello? da Vinci? Isaac Newton? Queen Victoria? Elizabeth I? Henry VIII? William Tell? Robin Hood?

        Ask them, and let me know ...

        (PS: Boosts would be welcome to get this outside my bubble ... TIA)

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        @ColinTheMathmo From my daughter, who is 23. Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, C. Columbus, Henry VIII, Ada Lovelace, Hitler, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Jesus, Buddha, Ghengis Khan.

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        • mpark@mathstodon.xyzM mpark@mathstodon.xyz

          @ColinTheMathmo (polling a 4th and a 6th grader) Dr. Seuss (Theodore something) . Milton Hershey. Galileo. Frida Kahlo. Plato. Socrates. Aristotle. Homer. Julius Ceasar. Nero. Commodus. Caligula. Augustus Caesar. Napolean. Blackbeard. Neil Armstrong. Shakespeare. Alexander Hamilton. Queen Elizabeth the 1st. Queen Elizabeth the 2nd. Adolf Hitler. George Washington. Abraham Lincoln. Theodore Roosevelt. Thomas Jefferson. Eliza Hamilton. Aaron Burr. Leonardo DaVinci. Lafayette. Lucille Ball. The Wright Brothers. Walt Disney. Nicola Tesla. Thomas Edison. Vincent Van Gogh. And they're bored now.

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          @mpark That's a fabulous list ... Thank you so much!!

          And thank them so much!!

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          • eleanorrees@mas.toE eleanorrees@mas.to

            @ColinTheMathmo Anyone depicted in Horrible Histories. Especially if they've got a song and dance number.

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            @eleanorrees Never seen or heard HH, and it would be interesting to know what had stuck for the kids.

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            • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

              @ColinTheMathmo From my daughter, who is 23. Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, C. Columbus, Henry VIII, Ada Lovelace, Hitler, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Jesus, Buddha, Ghengis Khan.

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              @ColinTheMathmo she wanted to keep going. She got way too into it.

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              • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                @ColinTheMathmo she wanted to keep going. She got way too into it.

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                @bit101 It can become a fun game to play ... then perhaps look at putting them in order.

                Is be interested to know where it goes ...

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                • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                  Margot Fonteyn?
                  Rudolf Nureyev?
                  Mikhail Baryshnikov?
                  Charlie Chaplin?
                  Fred Astaire?
                  Ginger Rogers?
                  Cary Grant?
                  Marilyn Monroe?

                  Who have kids heard of?

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                  @ColinTheMathmo Does Edmund Blackadder count? King Arthur?

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                  • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                    @dougmerritt But it's late here and I have an early start tomorrow. I might leave it for now.

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                    @ColinTheMathmo
                    > Are you one of today's 10 thousand?

                    I don't know what that means.

                    Edit: I guess it rings a bell; something about that there's *always* someone who doesn't know what you're talking about.

                    Looking up Fonteyn, perhaps she was discussed less internationally after her retirement than the other 4 dancers you listed (I'm not including Joan of Arc because I don't recall where you stand on absurdist humor).

                    > early start tomorrow.

                    G'night!

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                    • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                      Do you know a young person?

                      Ask them what famous people they've heard of from before 1950 and let me know.

                      For example: Einstein? Marie Curie? Cleopatra? Donatello? da Vinci? Isaac Newton? Queen Victoria? Elizabeth I? Henry VIII? William Tell? Robin Hood?

                      Ask them, and let me know ...

                      (PS: Boosts would be welcome to get this outside my bubble ... TIA)

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                      @ColinTheMathmo "did Horrible Histories mention them?"

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                      • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                        Do you know a young person?

                        Ask them what famous people they've heard of from before 1950 and let me know.

                        For example: Einstein? Marie Curie? Cleopatra? Donatello? da Vinci? Isaac Newton? Queen Victoria? Elizabeth I? Henry VIII? William Tell? Robin Hood?

                        Ask them, and let me know ...

                        (PS: Boosts would be welcome to get this outside my bubble ... TIA)

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                        @ColinTheMathmo Many kids, including mine, know who Michelangelo, Donatello, Leonardo da Vinci, and Raffaello were, because of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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                        • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                          @shapr Under the age of 73½ ...

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                          @ColinTheMathmo @shapr Is that in years? Months? If years, I would qualify as young and I don't think you meant to include me, but 73.5 months (6 years and change) feels like limiting the sample too much.

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                          • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                            Do you know a young person?

                            Ask them what famous people they've heard of from before 1950 and let me know.

                            For example: Einstein? Marie Curie? Cleopatra? Donatello? da Vinci? Isaac Newton? Queen Victoria? Elizabeth I? Henry VIII? William Tell? Robin Hood?

                            Ask them, and let me know ...

                            (PS: Boosts would be welcome to get this outside my bubble ... TIA)

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                            @ColinTheMathmo My 9-yo daughter immediately answered Beethowen (she's taking piano lessons).

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                            • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT truenorthspice@mastodon.world

                              @ColinTheMathmo

                              At first I thought it was a shocked cat- looking at it, that makes sense, right?!
                              But my cursor happened to touch it and "weary cat" popped up---the same just now occurred when I went back and tried again.
                              Something is "off kilter" in Fediverse...or my computer.....🤔

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                              @TrueNorthSpice @ColinTheMathmo It’s just that “weary” has two meanings: “tired” and “being in a state of ‘WTF is *that*?!’”. The emoji is for the second meaning, but—as always happens—people started using it for the first too.

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                              • dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyzD dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz

                                @ColinTheMathmo
                                > Are you one of today's 10 thousand?

                                I don't know what that means.

                                Edit: I guess it rings a bell; something about that there's *always* someone who doesn't know what you're talking about.

                                Looking up Fonteyn, perhaps she was discussed less internationally after her retirement than the other 4 dancers you listed (I'm not including Joan of Arc because I don't recall where you stand on absurdist humor).

                                > early start tomorrow.

                                G'night!

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                                @dougmerritt the "ten thousand" thingie is from xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1053/

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                                • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

                                  @dougmerritt the "ten thousand" thingie is from xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1053/

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                                  @tpfto
                                  Ah! Yes, I'd forgotten that one; thanks.

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                                  • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                                    Do you know a young person?

                                    Ask them what famous people they've heard of from before 1950 and let me know.

                                    For example: Einstein? Marie Curie? Cleopatra? Donatello? da Vinci? Isaac Newton? Queen Victoria? Elizabeth I? Henry VIII? William Tell? Robin Hood?

                                    Ask them, and let me know ...

                                    (PS: Boosts would be welcome to get this outside my bubble ... TIA)

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                                    @ColinTheMathmo Bill (12yo): "David Attenborough" (brief conversation about what you probably mean) "I know some world war two leaders: Churchill, Hitler, the Italian one... Mussolini? Probably all the kings and queens back to William the Conqueror." (I suggest science and music). "Marie Curie. Beethoven. Mozart." I'm sure he would go on for hours once he got going, he's watched/read a LOT of Horrible Histories.

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                                    • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                                      @pigworker I'd be interested to see your list(s).

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                                      @ColinTheMathmo I'm trying to remember where in my archives I put this puzzle, currently to no avail.

                                      I can remember a few things on my list. It was basically Wikipedia bait. There was stuff like

                                      • Euclid shows how to compute greatest common divisor
                                      • Al-Khwarizmi shows how to solve quadratic equations by completing the square

                                      but also sneaky things like

                                      • Ada Lovelace writes programs for Babbage's Analytical Engine
                                      • Babbage's Analytical Engine gets constructed
                                      • Women in the UK get the right to vote

                                      I'm fairly sure I had

                                      • Alan Turing commits suicide
                                      • Lethal quantities of toxic gas are released from Union Carbide factory in Bhopal
                                      • King Charles I executed

                                      I definitely had

                                      • Potatoes arrive in Europe

                                      because I would routinely demonstrate Euclid's algorithm with two piles of salad potatoes, claiming the while that Euclid had actually used potatoes, and never once getting called on the anachronism.

                                      If I remember rightly, I served up a list of 25 things (selected from a slightly larger pool, but with some compulsories) in random order, each keyed by a letter of the alphabet, and I asked for the sequence of the key letters arranged in chronological order, with the one which hasn't happened yet at the end.

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                                      • pauamma@mstdn.socialP pauamma@mstdn.social

                                        @ColinTheMathmo @shapr Is that in years? Months? If years, I would qualify as young and I don't think you meant to include me, but 73.5 months (6 years and change) feels like limiting the sample too much.

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                                        @pauamma It was somewhat tongue-in-cheek ... there isn't really, and can't be, a hard cut-off. I know people in their early 20s who were therefore born in the naughties ... "young" is a completely subjective term.

                                        I was thinking of under 18, but really, anyone.

                                        CC: @shapr

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                                        • icecolbeveridge@mathstodon.xyzI icecolbeveridge@mathstodon.xyz

                                          @ColinTheMathmo Bill (12yo): "David Attenborough" (brief conversation about what you probably mean) "I know some world war two leaders: Churchill, Hitler, the Italian one... Mussolini? Probably all the kings and queens back to William the Conqueror." (I suggest science and music). "Marie Curie. Beethoven. Mozart." I'm sure he would go on for hours once he got going, he's watched/read a LOT of Horrible Histories.

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                                          @ColinTheMathmo Fred (11yo): (I asked for five or else he'd miss school): "Anne Frank, Charles Dickens, Jesus, John Snow, Ada Lovelace and Charles Babbage (it feels wrong to have one without the other.)"

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