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@paco @BenAveling it is just a stupid electronic device

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  • lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @paco a fuckton of whiskey #monsterdon

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    • roque@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @paco Australian table wine #monsterdon

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      • steggy@sunny.gardenS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @paco brandy

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        • fonecokid@c.imF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @paco ❤️ 💙 😍

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          • floatybirb@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @paco I choose to interpret the gradual decline in posts as people gradually falling asleep.

            #monsterdon

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            • dreadfulsanity@mstdn.gamesD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @paco Very nicely done. 😂

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              • floatybirb@mastodon.socialF floatybirb@mastodon.social

                @paco I choose to interpret the gradual decline in posts as people gradually falling asleep.

                #monsterdon

                paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                paco@infosec.exchange
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                @floatybirb Yeah, that graph is really unusual. They usually have a bowl shape. A lot of activity at the beginning, a lull in the middle, and then a surge at the end. There is a spike at the end, but the trendline is overall down, and that almost never happens.

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                  sudo_asap@mastodon.social
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                  @paco I relate to this.

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                  • nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @paco https://prism-break.org/en/all/#instant-messaging

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                    • randy_s@mefi.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @paco That would make an incredible SNL skit or these days perhaps an IRL business opportunity. "Supply Closet Steve" who, for a reasonable fee, will lie in wait behind a plastic fern or in a supply closet to back you up when needed. When you're getting ignored or trampled on he will pop out and say what you just said. All the other men in the room sigh and throw down their pens and papers in defeat, as he properly credits you.

                      (Image above is a woman with a slight smile and raised eyebrows stretching her hand out in introduction towards a man who has appeared from a small doorway. Two other men look on)

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                      • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                        Obi Wan says: “I’ve seen a security hologram of Anakin killing younglings”
                        Amidala replies “But the Dow is over 50,000”
                        #trump #uspol #dow50k

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                        @paco

                        THIS is, how #Disinformation
                        works.

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                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                          Obi Wan says: “I’ve seen a security hologram of Anakin killing younglings”
                          Amidala replies “But the Dow is over 50,000”
                          #trump #uspol #dow50k

                          fgbjr@indieweb.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @paco I still think "the DOW is over fifty thousand dollars" should be read as "fuck you." I'm not sure this meme captures that spirit.

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                          • x41h@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @barryjsullivan @paco @briankrebs the devil wears prada

                            And the FBI spies on it's own people illegally

                            The FBI answer to the devil

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                            • x41h@infosec.exchangeX x41h@infosec.exchange

                              @barryjsullivan @paco @briankrebs the devil wears prada

                              And the FBI spies on it's own people illegally

                              The FBI answer to the devil

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                              barryjsullivan@techhub.social
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                              @x41h @paco @briankrebs The FBI is run by the devil… See.

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                                @x41h @paco @briankrebs The FBI is run by the devil… See.

                                x41h@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @barryjsullivan @paco @briankrebs Lol.

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                                • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                  I dunno. I think “cognitive debt” is just a fancy-pants way of saying “not knowing how your shit works.”

                                  This is no remarkable special condition that needs a new term. It’s just that people have a limited grasp of details when they’re not involved in the details.

                                  If not for a term like “cognitive debt” to make it seem special, we might conclude a lot of those predictions about how AI would hurt software development were right.

                                  How Generative and Agentic AI Shift Concern from Technical Debt to Cognitive Debt

                                  This piece by Margaret-Anne Storey is the best explanation of the term cognitive debt I've seen so far. Cognitive debt, a term gaining traction recently, instead communicates the notion that …

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                                  diazona@techhub.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @paco 😂 but true

                                  I had to use a coding agent precisely once before I realized this, so I don't even see how it deserves a name or a blog post, except that I guess 90% of the software industry has their heads in the clouds and didn't catch on

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                                  • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                    I dunno. I think “cognitive debt” is just a fancy-pants way of saying “not knowing how your shit works.”

                                    This is no remarkable special condition that needs a new term. It’s just that people have a limited grasp of details when they’re not involved in the details.

                                    If not for a term like “cognitive debt” to make it seem special, we might conclude a lot of those predictions about how AI would hurt software development were right.

                                    How Generative and Agentic AI Shift Concern from Technical Debt to Cognitive Debt

                                    This piece by Margaret-Anne Storey is the best explanation of the term cognitive debt I've seen so far. Cognitive debt, a term gaining traction recently, instead communicates the notion that …

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                                    msh@coales.coM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @paco we as a society have been in serious "cognitave debt" for decades. Computering became a shit sundae of frameworks on top of containers within VMs floating in a cloudy cluster sauce of somebody else's servers that no single person knows WTF made this all work.

                                    Then #LLM based #GenAI came along and we are not just in debt we are now Cognitively Bankrupt. I thought we hit rock bottom when web designers started saying they needed 32GiB to build their fekkin' websites but then all...this...came around and we started telling Rube Goldberg to hold our beer as we cooked the planet to make computers be bad at math and make memes and tacky art and write bad code and invent new and incurable injection vulnerabilities.

                                    Inventing snappy new terms for shitty old problems is just another sign of how things are spiralling faater and further down the toilet TBH.

                                    I'm not bitter I'm just a cynical old Gen X man. Whatever I don't care

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                                    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                      I dunno. I think “cognitive debt” is just a fancy-pants way of saying “not knowing how your shit works.”

                                      This is no remarkable special condition that needs a new term. It’s just that people have a limited grasp of details when they’re not involved in the details.

                                      If not for a term like “cognitive debt” to make it seem special, we might conclude a lot of those predictions about how AI would hurt software development were right.

                                      How Generative and Agentic AI Shift Concern from Technical Debt to Cognitive Debt

                                      This piece by Margaret-Anne Storey is the best explanation of the term cognitive debt I've seen so far. Cognitive debt, a term gaining traction recently, instead communicates the notion that …

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                                      dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @paco Cognitive debt sounds very much like a lack of architectural discipline.

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                                      • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                        @paco

                                        For most people, ANYTHING they use is "cognitive debt", ask them how their glass prayer tablet works and they'll respond smugly "Computer"...

                                        ... Mention "quantum tunneling transistor" inside and you'll get rapid blinking shutdown mode.

                                        AI hasn't caused wide spread ignorance of... Everything...

                                        People go lazy way before then.

                                        cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @briankrebs @paco Hard agree, and imma rant:

                                        Some ignorance is ok. Maybe I don’t understand how ___(thing)___ in my car works. I don’t need to. Ditto my power grid. Ditto how my food wholesalers get food from farm to my store. Ditto 90%+ of the conveniences of a civil society.

                                        But I want a mechanic who does, working on my car. He doesn’t need to understand metallurgy & materials sci and structural dynamics and etc. But he wants to buy car parts from someone who does. And he wants to work with people that make sure he gets paid, stays busy, etc. And so on.

                                        TL;dr: Society IS specialization.

                                        It’s ok to a point. But it’s never ok to skip the part where competency is in the chain. An AI product that lacks a competent wrangler (call it cognitive debt or tech debt) isn’t enough. It’s a substantial Risk. (Puts on Risk Expert hat) And we definitely don’t fucking incur risks as blasély as all (hand waves) *THESE* fuckers are eager to normalize. No, thanks.

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                                        • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                          @briankrebs @paco Hard agree, and imma rant:

                                          Some ignorance is ok. Maybe I don’t understand how ___(thing)___ in my car works. I don’t need to. Ditto my power grid. Ditto how my food wholesalers get food from farm to my store. Ditto 90%+ of the conveniences of a civil society.

                                          But I want a mechanic who does, working on my car. He doesn’t need to understand metallurgy & materials sci and structural dynamics and etc. But he wants to buy car parts from someone who does. And he wants to work with people that make sure he gets paid, stays busy, etc. And so on.

                                          TL;dr: Society IS specialization.

                                          It’s ok to a point. But it’s never ok to skip the part where competency is in the chain. An AI product that lacks a competent wrangler (call it cognitive debt or tech debt) isn’t enough. It’s a substantial Risk. (Puts on Risk Expert hat) And we definitely don’t fucking incur risks as blasély as all (hand waves) *THESE* fuckers are eager to normalize. No, thanks.

                                          paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @cascheranno yeah I think we are largely in agreement. What I find really troubling is how people seem willing, almost gleeful about not knowing the core of their job function.

                                          I don’t know how my car works and I really can’t fix much of it myself. Ditto for most kitchen appliances. That’s ok. It’s not my job. But if I took my car to a garage and the person whose job it is to fix it says they don’t really know why the machine wants to change spark plugs, they just do what it says, I’m going to a different garage.

                                          A developer who has turned in code they don’t understand and can’t maintain has done their job very poorly. Even if the code works, knowing how it works and maintaining it is in the dead center of their job responsibilities. Assigning it a fancy name like “cognitive debt” is just masking the issue of failing at a core part of their job.

                                          We used to sneer at people who copy/pasted stuff off stack overflow and had no idea what it was doing or how. Now people think that’s the future.

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