Catching up with some of the news coming out of the Atmosphere conference.
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@stefan The funny thing about NFT avatars, BTW, is that Bluesky is making exactly the same mistake with DNS-based handles that Twitter made with NFT avatars: pay someone *else* for platform features, and the platform gets no cut.
(Bluesky does seems to have some kind of referral program with a DNS registrar, but it appears to be a very obscure feature that few know about.)
@ricci Ah, that is an interesting point, didn't think of it that way!
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Though haven't we also been having declining active user counts?
Though if everyone's counts are declining maybe people are going outside?
(Just want to clarify the fediverse updates sound quite a bit better than the blue sky updates, I just wasn't sure about the trends in active users)
@alienghic It started to pick up again recently, might be going down a bit again, though.
Well. Nevertheless!
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@alienghic It started to pick up again recently, might be going down a bit again, though.
Well. Nevertheless!
@alienghic Not sure if people have been going back to Twitter/X away from both Bluesky/fedi.
Can't really trust their numbers.
Maybe just giving up on social media?
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Catching up with some of the news coming out of the Atmosphere conference.
"With Attie, anyone will be able to build their own custom feed just by typing in commands in natural language, the same as if they’re chatting with any other AI chatbot."
I'm guessing NFT profile pictures are next?
Bluesky leans into AI with Attie, an app for building custom feeds | TechCrunch
Bluesky’s new app Attie uses AI to help people build custom feeds the open social networking protocol atproto.
TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
#news #technology #TechNews #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #AI #LLMs
@stefan Here's something for you: https://martianbase.net/@mackuba/116309682841704313
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@alienghic Not sure if people have been going back to Twitter/X away from both Bluesky/fedi.
Can't really trust their numbers.
Maybe just giving up on social media?
I personally think it's more common for people to prefer more closed communities like discord
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I personally think it's more common for people to prefer more closed communities like discord
I think dealing with "the public" can be stressful and I think only some people want to do that.
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@stefan Here's something for you: https://martianbase.net/@mackuba/116309682841704313
@mackuba Yes, I've seen statements along these lines in the past, but thanks, appreciate you sharing this.
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I think dealing with "the public" can be stressful and I think only some people want to do that.
@alienghic Yes, that makes sense!
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So, Bluesky is getting more crypto VC money, more AI, and a full year of steadily declining activity.
Bluesky User Growth and Active Users
See how activity and usage of Bluesky has been growing over time. How many users are currently active? How many posts are posted daily on Bluesky?
(bluefacts.app)
While the fediverse is getting quotes, UX/UI improvements, starter packs.
Hm!
@stefan the goal of the fediverse doesn't have to be growth, one of the advantages of not being tied to VC funding. I would rather people engaged less here and more in real life, and this place helped with those connections, rather than try to coopt and monetise them.
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So, Bluesky is getting more crypto VC money, more AI, and a full year of steadily declining activity.
Bluesky User Growth and Active Users
See how activity and usage of Bluesky has been growing over time. How many users are currently active? How many posts are posted daily on Bluesky?
(bluefacts.app)
While the fediverse is getting quotes, UX/UI improvements, starter packs.
Hm!
@stefan especially interesting: the daily follows have declined from 8 million a year ago to under 2 million now (a 75% drop). Even with declining user numbers there still could be a lot of user circulation (old ones leaving, new ones signing up), but then the follows would be more stable on higher levels.
Now it looks like they have a declining longtime user base without getting many new ones. -
So, Bluesky is getting more crypto VC money, more AI, and a full year of steadily declining activity.
Bluesky User Growth and Active Users
See how activity and usage of Bluesky has been growing over time. How many users are currently active? How many posts are posted daily on Bluesky?
(bluefacts.app)
While the fediverse is getting quotes, UX/UI improvements, starter packs.
Hm!
And more cats! Don't forget the cats!
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@alienghic Not sure if people have been going back to Twitter/X away from both Bluesky/fedi.
Can't really trust their numbers.
Maybe just giving up on social media?
@stefan @alienghic anecdotally Instagram and TikTok seem now the main "mainstream" platforms. When somebody is scrolling on a mobile in public it's invariably one of these. I have no personal experience with either, and no objective numbers, so...
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So, Bluesky is getting more crypto VC money, more AI, and a full year of steadily declining activity.
Bluesky User Growth and Active Users
See how activity and usage of Bluesky has been growing over time. How many users are currently active? How many posts are posted daily on Bluesky?
(bluefacts.app)
While the fediverse is getting quotes, UX/UI improvements, starter packs.
Hm!
@stefan This is a cool site. Looking more closely at the daily metrics over the past year, it seems like it's flattening out. This makes sense, because I think a year+ ago, it was newer and people were still making the move over and trying it out. The growth they had at the start was never going to remain. To echo somewhat the points made in a few other comments here, that's probably a good thing.
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So, Bluesky is getting more crypto VC money, more AI, and a full year of steadily declining activity.
Bluesky User Growth and Active Users
See how activity and usage of Bluesky has been growing over time. How many users are currently active? How many posts are posted daily on Bluesky?
(bluefacts.app)
While the fediverse is getting quotes, UX/UI improvements, starter packs.
Hm!
@stefan
starter packs is a terrible terrible idea. it leads to follow/follower lists in their tens of thousands to zero purpose. -
@stefan
starter packs is a terrible terrible idea. it leads to follow/follower lists in their tens of thousands to zero purpose.@botvolution Well they'll be pretty restricted, from what I've read, e.g. you'll only be able to add people to them who you follow, they'll be limited in size, you'll be notified when you get added, with an option to remove yourself, and you can opt out from being added altogether.
You'll probably be able to filter out posts that mention or link to them, I'd imagine. (Eg. filter out posts that contain a portion of the URL, if it includes something like "/collection/").
Seems like you can avoid this feature altogether as if it didn't exist at all.
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@stefan This is a cool site. Looking more closely at the daily metrics over the past year, it seems like it's flattening out. This makes sense, because I think a year+ ago, it was newer and people were still making the move over and trying it out. The growth they had at the start was never going to remain. To echo somewhat the points made in a few other comments here, that's probably a good thing.
@aaronmccollum Yes, the chart itself is nothing unusual.
To me, the interesting part is, a year ago they closed a $100 million funding round, which they just recently disclosed. And their numbers have been dropping the whole year.
Can you imagine what we could do with $100 million dollars?
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@stefan especially interesting: the daily follows have declined from 8 million a year ago to under 2 million now (a 75% drop). Even with declining user numbers there still could be a lot of user circulation (old ones leaving, new ones signing up), but then the follows would be more stable on higher levels.
Now it looks like they have a declining longtime user base without getting many new ones.@vvv Yes, and that's a year since they closed a $100 million funding round, which they just recently disclosed.
Bluesky announces $100M Series B after CEO transition | TechCrunch
The additional funds have been used to scale Bluesky's team, while the company continues to develop Bluesky's app and the underlying ATProto that powers it.
TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
Doesn't seem like the money did much to help them.
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@aaronmccollum Yes, the chart itself is nothing unusual.
To me, the interesting part is, a year ago they closed a $100 million funding round, which they just recently disclosed. And their numbers have been dropping the whole year.
Can you imagine what we could do with $100 million dollars?
@stefan We could buy a few dump trucks full of pizza.
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@stefan We could buy a few dump trucks full of pizza.
@aaronmccollum We have got to figure out how to get VCs interested in this place. There has to be a way.
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@botvolution Well they'll be pretty restricted, from what I've read, e.g. you'll only be able to add people to them who you follow, they'll be limited in size, you'll be notified when you get added, with an option to remove yourself, and you can opt out from being added altogether.
You'll probably be able to filter out posts that mention or link to them, I'd imagine. (Eg. filter out posts that contain a portion of the URL, if it includes something like "/collection/").
Seems like you can avoid this feature altogether as if it didn't exist at all.
@stefan
I remain deeply unconvinced of either their utility or any supposed safeguards.I can't imagine the usual denizens of dotsocial carefully monitoring their notifs for this sort of activity.
We'll see, I suppose.
