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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

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    larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jwildeboer I opened a ticket about WERO support with my bank end of last year and they responded, that they have no plans to support it 😞

    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ maswaba@mastodontech.deM reginald@mastodon.greenR 3 Replies Last reply
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    • mc@toot.houbahouba.deM mc@toot.houbahouba.de

      @jwildeboer hopefully the "become better and better" includes wero from migrating to an european cloud service instead of using aws.

      jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @mc Tell them. PayPal and Visa/Master aren’t better in that regard. Change through use beats criticising from the sidelines.

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      • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

        @jwildeboer I opened a ticket about WERO support with my bank end of last year and they responded, that they have no plans to support it 😞

        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @Larvitz So change to a bank that does 🙂

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

          Link Preview Image
          Wero - Digital payment wallet

          Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

          favicon

          (wero-wallet.eu)

          panda4x4@mastodon.bida.imP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @jwildeboer unfortunately not available here in Italy

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          • tork7@social.anoxinon.deT tork7@social.anoxinon.de

            @jwildeboer the first step would be to Tell My bank to implement it. #DKB

            jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @tork7 Or to vote with your money and switch to a bank that does.

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            • panda4x4@mastodon.bida.imP panda4x4@mastodon.bida.im

              @jwildeboer unfortunately not available here in Italy

              jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @panda4x4 keep on asking.

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              • mc@toot.houbahouba.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @jwildeboer in a worst case scenario paypal and credit cards are effectively unusable. hence i already forwarded my comment to my personal bank and EPI.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                  Link Preview Image
                  Wero - Digital payment wallet

                  Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                  favicon

                  (wero-wallet.eu)

                  schmitzel76@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @jwildeboer well it is hard to try when it's not available yet. For now it is only Germany, France and Belgium. It will take a few years before it will be wider available. Here in the Netherlands, we only see a Wero logo next to the iDEAL logo, and it will be during 2027 before we actually see anything from it.

                  But it definitely is an interesting development.

                  jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ sijmen@shrimp.vijf.lifeS eliasp@mastodon.socialE 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • schmitzel76@mstdn.socialS schmitzel76@mstdn.social

                    @jwildeboer well it is hard to try when it's not available yet. For now it is only Germany, France and Belgium. It will take a few years before it will be wider available. Here in the Netherlands, we only see a Wero logo next to the iDEAL logo, and it will be during 2027 before we actually see anything from it.

                    But it definitely is an interesting development.

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                    #12

                    @schmitzel76 „only“ Germany, France and Belgium still means many millions of potential users.

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                    • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                      @jwildeboer I opened a ticket about WERO support with my bank end of last year and they responded, that they have no plans to support it 😞

                      maswaba@mastodontech.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @Larvitz @jwildeboer Same here, they told me "not in this decade"

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                      • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                        @jwildeboer I opened a ticket about WERO support with my bank end of last year and they responded, that they have no plans to support it 😞

                        reginald@mastodon.greenR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @Larvitz @jwildeboer Same here. Triodos Bank in Germany also had no intentions to implement Wero. Then I found out that they are going to retreat from Germany anyway. So I chose a new Bank with a good perspective concerning Wero. That's life, I guess.

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                          Link Preview Image
                          Wero - Digital payment wallet

                          Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                          favicon

                          (wero-wallet.eu)

                          sesivany@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @jwildeboer it seems to be euro only, so no luck in 🇨🇿. But Visa/Master have slowly been replaced by instant QR transfers here.

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            @Larvitz So change to a bank that does 🙂

                            larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @jwildeboer I haven't found one yet, that fits all my requirements unfortunately 😞 I really like that my Bank is allowing me to create subaccounts with their own IBAN number and havily use that for clean seperation of things.

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                            • maswaba@mastodontech.deM maswaba@mastodontech.de

                              @Larvitz @jwildeboer Same here, they told me "not in this decade"

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                              @maswaba @Larvitz Where is „here“? I live in Germany and my bank (Postbank) and the banks of family members (mostly Sparkasse) do support it and we are happily using it.

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                                Link Preview Image
                                Wero - Digital payment wallet

                                Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                                favicon

                                (wero-wallet.eu)

                                jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                The expected „yes, but“ is strong in the replies. 😉 (I will now go to bed, so the "yes,, but" crowd will have its playing field until I wake up again and post friendly replies with links on how they are wrong. My advice: Try Wero, note it isn't perfect, tell Wero and your bank what is needed for you to switch fully. We can do this 🙂

                                paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ frzifus@fosstodon.orgF 3 Replies Last reply
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                                  @j_r my bank (Postbank in Germany) allows me to use the Wero app.

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Wero - Digital payment wallet

                                    Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                                    favicon

                                    (wero-wallet.eu)

                                    compfu@mograph.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jwildeboer I've contacted two German NGOs regrading Wero (you can donate via Sepa, credit and Paypal). They said that they keep an eye on it but last time they tried it wasn't possible for them to implement it. I don't know about their use cases but I thought it's just a QR code.
                                    I once wrote a ticket from within the Wero app about some iOS UI issues and they responded and somewhat improved things in the next update. So... thumbs up for #Wero. I will write them about the NGO's responses.

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      @schmitzel76 „only“ Germany, France and Belgium still means many millions of potential users.

                                      schmitzel76@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @jwildeboer of course it is already a large potential userbase to start with, and work out the kinks in the system. But to become successful, also for international payments, it has to be rolled out further, which will take time.

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        @maswaba @Larvitz Where is „here“? I live in Germany and my bank (Postbank) and the banks of family members (mostly Sparkasse) do support it and we are happily using it.

                                        maswaba@mastodontech.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jwildeboer @Larvitz Germany, Sparkasse. They don't give a damn about wero.

                                        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower 🙂

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Wero - Digital payment wallet

                                          Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.

                                          favicon

                                          (wero-wallet.eu)

                                          mattb@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @jwildeboer WERO sounds really interesting.

                                          Are you aware of anybody who's written it up for the technical layman? It sounds like a P2P protocol between banks, but I can't imagine there's no central control at all.

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