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My ex & her new partner are bringing my 11 y/o son up as a vegan.

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  • makeitmythic@mastodon.socialM makeitmythic@mastodon.social

    @slowlygoingsane @fesshole so is eating exclusively carcinogenic meat

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    @makeitmythic @slowlygoingsane @fesshole

    I don't think anyone is suggesting bringing up the kid on a diet of pure meat. That definitely wouldn't be healthy. But letting him feast to make up for the lack of meat during the rest of the week doesn't sound so bad.

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    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

      My ex & her new partner are bringing my 11 y/o son up as a vegan. I asked him if it was his choice - he said no & he hates the food. So now every Friday when he stays at mine we fire the BBQ up & have steak, ribs & wings. It's the most we've ever bonded.

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      @fesshole As long as you're doing it out of respect to his autonomy of choice, that's laudable. Don't turn it into a way to get back at your ex.

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      • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

        @makeitmythic @slowlygoingsane @fesshole

        I don't think anyone is suggesting bringing up the kid on a diet of pure meat. That definitely wouldn't be healthy. But letting him feast to make up for the lack of meat during the rest of the week doesn't sound so bad.

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        @CppGuy @slowlygoingsane @fesshole its not even necessarily the meat thats the problem, but only eating bbqd processed meat cant be good

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        • jak2k@mastodontech.deJ jak2k@mastodontech.de

          @slowlygoingsane Veganism is the only way we are gonna feed all humans!

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          nope. decolonization and land redistribution will. go look up the definition of latifundista.

          @jak2k @slowlygoingsane

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          • jak2k@mastodontech.deJ jak2k@mastodontech.de

            @slowlygoingsane Veganism is the only way we are gonna feed all humans!

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            @jak2k @slowlygoingsane veganism is worse as you're limiting yourself so how you're gonna feed more people that ways? makes 0 sense.

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            • slowlygoingsane@retro-gaiden.comS slowlygoingsane@retro-gaiden.com

              @fesshole

              Child abuse - veganism is an eating disorder

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              @slowlygoingsane @fesshole this is wrong on both counts. Vegan diets are an ethical choice.....oh wait, you have a cross in your username. Never mind. You probably think animals are lesser beings and other creationist nonsense. Forcing your religion on children is child abuse. Asking a child to eat broccoli when it doesn't want to is normal human life.

              2/10. You almost got me to genuinely argue with you, but ultimately failed at trolling. You are not awaiten in Trollhalla. Zero accolades.

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              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                nope. decolonization and land redistribution will. go look up the definition of latifundista.

                @jak2k @slowlygoingsane

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                @blogdiva @jak2k @slowlygoingsane I fear we will hit the point where we won't be able to feed all humans, and billions will die--because the escalating climate chaos will ruin harvests all over the planet and turn fertile land into deserts, because pesticides ruin the ecosystems and pollinators vanish, because a lot of land gets swallowed by the sea, and because the collapsing economy fails to distribute the food to those who need it.

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                • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                  My ex & her new partner are bringing my 11 y/o son up as a vegan. I asked him if it was his choice - he said no & he hates the food. So now every Friday when he stays at mine we fire the BBQ up & have steak, ribs & wings. It's the most we've ever bonded.

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                  @fesshole disheartening to see that people are still so triggered by veganism.

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                  • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

                    @blogdiva @jak2k @slowlygoingsane I fear we will hit the point where we won't be able to feed all humans, and billions will die--because the escalating climate chaos will ruin harvests all over the planet and turn fertile land into deserts, because pesticides ruin the ecosystems and pollinators vanish, because a lot of land gets swallowed by the sea, and because the collapsing economy fails to distribute the food to those who need it.

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                    that’s an eugenics (and fascist) talking point.

                    the industrial revolution in europe did not come with agrarian reform. no coincidence eugenics appears when the guys who own all the land can’t find workers at 2 pennies an hour because the factory owner will train and pay them 5 pennies.

                    look, there is nothing special about veganism. what’s special is how it’s used to normalize eugenics and squash agrarian reform & land redistribution.

                    @LordCaramac @jak2k @slowlygoingsane

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      nope. decolonization and land redistribution will. go look up the definition of latifundista.

                      @jak2k @slowlygoingsane

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                      @blogdiva @slowlygoingsane The calculation about veganism assumes perfect distribution. It's based on the estimated number of humans, area usable for agriculture and the amount of calories a human needs. To my best knowledge, land redistribution won't be enough if we continue using products made from animals. I'm happy to learn otherwise though.

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        that’s an eugenics (and fascist) talking point.

                        the industrial revolution in europe did not come with agrarian reform. no coincidence eugenics appears when the guys who own all the land can’t find workers at 2 pennies an hour because the factory owner will train and pay them 5 pennies.

                        look, there is nothing special about veganism. what’s special is how it’s used to normalize eugenics and squash agrarian reform & land redistribution.

                        @LordCaramac @jak2k @slowlygoingsane

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                        @blogdiva @LordCaramac@discordian.social @slowlygoingsane I don't understand how the is related? We have a few billion humans on earth now. That's not comparable with the population before the industrialisation.

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                        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                          My ex & her new partner are bringing my 11 y/o son up as a vegan. I asked him if it was his choice - he said no & he hates the food. So now every Friday when he stays at mine we fire the BBQ up & have steak, ribs & wings. It's the most we've ever bonded.

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                          @fesshole My family of origin fed me meat and other animal products before I was even aware of myself. They didn't let me choose for myself whether I wanted to consume animal products or not when old enough to understand what that meant.

                          They also smoked in front of me (my mother during pregnancy as well), gave me alcoholic drinks since I remember instead of letting me choose whether to drink them or not when old enough to understand the consequences, and they forced me to undergo Catholic rituals threatening me with physical and economic violence.

                          #vegan #childAbuse #christianChildAbuse #religion #alcohol #smoking #christianity #catholicism

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                          • P patricus@gts.posix.live

                            @jak2k @slowlygoingsane veganism is worse as you're limiting yourself so how you're gonna feed more people that ways? makes 0 sense.

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                            @patricus @slowlygoingsane An aninals needs food too. If you eat that food directly, you will have more food than you would have gotten from the animal.

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                            • P patricus@gts.posix.live

                              @jak2k @slowlygoingsane veganism is worse as you're limiting yourself so how you're gonna feed more people that ways? makes 0 sense.

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                              @patricus @jak2k @slowlygoingsane@retro-gaiden.com By not running perfectly good food through other animals' digestive system.

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                              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                My ex & her new partner are bringing my 11 y/o son up as a vegan. I asked him if it was his choice - he said no & he hates the food. So now every Friday when he stays at mine we fire the BBQ up & have steak, ribs & wings. It's the most we've ever bonded.

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                                @fesshole my parents forced corpses on me even when I said that I don't want to eat animals.

                                My mother smoked, not only in front of me but letting me lit her cigarettes. I wasn't even 10. Now I have COPD. I never smoked myself.

                                My parents let me drink alcohol before I even went to Kindergarden. My father even forced it on me after I started school

                                So having a caring mother that even cares for animals & the future of her child is the best thing that happens to your child

                                #goVegan #childabuse

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                                • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

                                  @patricus @jak2k @slowlygoingsane@retro-gaiden.com By not running perfectly good food through other animals' digestive system.

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                                  @rhelune @jak2k but well, meat gives that oomph to a meal that any fake meat can't reproduce.

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                                  • P patricus@gts.posix.live

                                    @rhelune @jak2k but well, meat gives that oomph to a meal that any fake meat can't reproduce.

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                                    @patricus @jak2k Results of blind taste tests disagree.

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                                    • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

                                      @patricus @jak2k Results of blind taste tests disagree.

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                                      patricus@gts.posix.live
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                                      @rhelune @jak2k I can feel what's meat and what isn't easily and I am blind sooooooooooooo?

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                                      • P patricus@gts.posix.live

                                        @rhelune @jak2k I can feel what's meat and what isn't easily and I am blind sooooooooooooo?

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                                        @patricus @jak2k https://www.thepoke.com/2022/11/24/vegan-sausage-test-jeremy-vine-show/

                                        Can't find the full plot described, but I just listened to the video without watching it, and got what was happening, so you might want to do that as well.

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                                        • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

                                          @patricus @jak2k https://www.thepoke.com/2022/11/24/vegan-sausage-test-jeremy-vine-show/

                                          Can't find the full plot described, but I just listened to the video without watching it, and got what was happening, so you might want to do that as well.

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                                          @rhelune @jak2k yeah, some vegan sausages can fool even me, but not all meat is just sausages, although IMHO vegan sausages are better than non vegan ones, but I love some pork, especially some fatty pork, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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