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  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

    Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

    "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

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    @fj
    The term BCSD applies.

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    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

      Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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      @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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      • killionaire@mastodon.socialK killionaire@mastodon.social

        @fj You can’t even get a capable small truck in the US anymore. Tacomas are as big as Tundras used to be. It’s ridiculous. The hoods are so tall they suck for off-roading visibility. You lose the trail in front of you going uphill.

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        @killionaire @fj yep stupid government tied emissions requirements to foot print size and shits been getting bigger ever since.

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        • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

          @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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          @reloadedhead @fj

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          • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

            Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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            @fj

            The size is to do with certain Americans having weak egos.

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            • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

              @fj big cars for big egos

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              @Bredroll @fj And small peepees

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              • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                @fj they wouldn't fit.

                On the roads, in the car parks, in the garages.

                They're a monument to waste

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                • quantensalat@scicomm.xyzQ quantensalat@scicomm.xyz

                  @fj real men drive 350 anywqy

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                  @Quantensalat @fj

                  FWIW, the truck in the comparison with the Twingo is an F350.

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                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                    @fj @cstross and they should remain this way

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                    • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                      @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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                      @reloadedhead @fj because they exist in a shared space.

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                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                        Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                        @fj why I have nearly been run off th road twice in the last year

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                        • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                          Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                          @fj We had an F150 beside us on a Dual Carriageway, somehow in the Blindspot but that was an F150 and I've no idea why anyone needs a vehicle that big

                          The bed capacity was lower than the Mercedes Sprinter my dad used to own and that thing was basically the same size as one of these, but that's a commercial vehicle.

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                          • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                            @reloadedhead @fj Because they endanger others, use way more space and it also encourages driving like pricks.
                            Or is it just making pricks more visible?

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                            @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                            I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                              Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                              @fj Rightly so...

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                              • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                                @fj Ok ik American trucks are massive, but could you atleast have used a graphic that actually compares trucks and not the smallest form factor style car against a vehicle that *has* to be large enough to haul stuff.

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                                @Rin3d @fj
                                That's not a vehicle for hauling stuff. It's a soccer-mom truck for running over the other kids.

                                If it was for hauling stuff, all that space would be used for the truck bed, instead of wasting it up front where its only function is to prevent seeing the terror on the face of the kids as you run them over.

                                This is what a truck for hauling stuff looks like. Note where all the space goes:

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                                  Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                  @fj #Funfact: One can just buy these in the #EU, just good luck stomaching the absurd high costs, findibg parkibg spots and paying for fuel & insurance on the gas-guzzling monstrosities!

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                                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                    @fj We have big problems with these large vehicles, and the super-sizing of pickups and SUVs in the narrow and winding roads that are village neighborhood streets in urban and suburban Thailand.

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                                      Keep these monstrosities off our roads πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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                                      @fj we have enough trouble around here with enormous tractors and what they are towing.

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                                      • sanzky@masto.esS sanzky@masto.es

                                        @cm @fj even "large" european SUVs are smaller than the monsters the US has

                                        (peugeot 5008 vs cadillac escalade)

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                                        @sanzky @fj That Peugeot is not an overly large car, it's about the length of a full size european station wagon like the classic Volvo 745 or Mercedes W123/W124T. I'd select the Mercedes GLS as a comparison for the Escalade, and then we're in the same ballpark of oversized ugly abominations. What's the more interesting question then: how many of each are sold in EU/US?

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                                        • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                                          @richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?

                                          I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!

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                                          @reloadedhead @richlv @fj They absolutely are far more deadly in accidents involving pedestrians and cyclists (of which we have so many more in the EU than in the US).

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