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Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss.

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116205343316077705

    Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss. So now all AI created code needs senior developers to check it twice. So how is this saving time? #ai #llm #aws

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    @nixCraft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    That is all.

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    • thejikz@infosec.exchangeT thejikz@infosec.exchange

      @nixCraft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      That is all.

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      @thejikz @nixCraft 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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      • H hankb@fosstodon.org

        @nixCraft
        > So how is this saving time?

        Counterpoint (and unpopular opinion):

        If they feed the corrections the senior engineers make back into the LLM, it should improve the results. In the short run this may cost more but could achieve significant savings eventually. Of course this assumes that the models can keep up with technology as the problems they solve are a moving target.

        IMO anyone who thinks the models won't get better and even "good enough" is dreaming.

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        @HankB @nixCraft I'm dreaming then.

        LLMs can't ever be as good as senior coders at complex stuff, because they don't have as accurate an internal representation of the real world.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116205343316077705

          Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss. So now all AI created code needs senior developers to check it twice. So how is this saving time? #ai #llm #aws

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          @nixCraft saving time? That's if it was the goal, just like with pedo in chief and Iran war he started with axis of Epstein, assuming traditional goals of victory etc are why while everyone is laughing at them, they are laughing all the way to the bank going "look at these fools thinking saving time was our goal of adopting this nonsense"...

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          • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

            @HankB @nixCraft I'm dreaming then.

            LLMs can't ever be as good as senior coders at complex stuff, because they don't have as accurate an internal representation of the real world.

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            @bazkie @nixCraft

            Today.

            Tomorrow? Next month? Next year? Ten years from now?

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            • H hankb@fosstodon.org

              @bazkie @nixCraft

              Today.

              Tomorrow? Next month? Next year? Ten years from now?

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              @HankB @nixCraft well, I suppose first we're gonna have a massive bubble pop, which will stifle AI development for a while.

              so my guess would be 15 to 30 years, but I wouldn't put any money on it

              * to be clear; I'm not talking about LLMs here, they would need to design a more brain-like thing first

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              • hankarus@social.bopinions.deH hankarus@social.bopinions.de

                @nixCraft Hmm, and how will there be Senior Developers when they fire all Junior Developers?

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                @hankarus @nixCraft How will there be Senior Developers when they all quit because they have to review GenAI code all day?

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                • bazkie@beige.partyB bazkie@beige.party

                  @HankB @nixCraft well, I suppose first we're gonna have a massive bubble pop, which will stifle AI development for a while.

                  so my guess would be 15 to 30 years, but I wouldn't put any money on it

                  * to be clear; I'm not talking about LLMs here, they would need to design a more brain-like thing first

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                  @bazkie @nixCraft

                  > we're gonna have a massive bubble pop

                  That seems likely. One can hope for a softer correction but as frothy as AI has become, it could happen rapidly. And the results could be as you guess.

                  > they would need to design a more brain-like thing first

                  Perhaps. That *would* be monumental. However if LLMs work with words and we can use words to describe the world around us, that seems like movement in that direction.

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                  • H hankb@fosstodon.org

                    @bazkie @nixCraft

                    > we're gonna have a massive bubble pop

                    That seems likely. One can hope for a softer correction but as frothy as AI has become, it could happen rapidly. And the results could be as you guess.

                    > they would need to design a more brain-like thing first

                    Perhaps. That *would* be monumental. However if LLMs work with words and we can use words to describe the world around us, that seems like movement in that direction.

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                    @bazkie @nixCraft

                    We also need to decide what is "brain like" and that kind of introspection is difficult.

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116205343316077705

                      Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss. So now all AI created code needs senior developers to check it twice. So how is this saving time? #ai #llm #aws

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                      @nixCraft
                      RIP senior devs, you will now work for the man and the machine.

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116205343316077705

                        Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss. So now all AI created code needs senior developers to check it twice. So how is this saving time? #ai #llm #aws

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                        @nixCraft replacing coders with LLMs is starting to sound very expensive. Moreover, the junior-to-senior pipeline is broken now that the industry needs more senior devs for _code review_.

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                        • H hankb@fosstodon.org

                          @bazkie @nixCraft

                          We also need to decide what is "brain like" and that kind of introspection is difficult.

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                          @HankB @nixCraft exactly, that's my thinking. they need a bunch of big breakthroughs, like transformers were for LLMs. but that takes time.

                          I believe LLMs are a dead end. using just words to describe the world is not multidimensional enough imho but that's just my intuition

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