God I love that someone is doing actual analysis on this question that my mom and sisters constantly harangued me about as a kid.

[mlanger@mastodon.world]

@lkanies @kboyd Men are responsible for lifting and lowering the toilet seat. There really isn't much of a debate. ‍️

[scuttlebutt@farticle.cloud]

@mlanger @kboyd @lkanies Yes, and you should be closing the lid as well before flushing to limit the aerosol of nasty things swirling into the rest of the room.

(it's ok to do a preemptive flush if you're still sat upon it, sometimes a thing that needs to happen.)

[kboyd@phpc.social]

@scuttlebutt @mlanger @lkanies I agree with the farticle accelerator on this. And I'm raising my sons to keep that in mind.

[lkanies@hachyderm.io]

@mlanger @kboyd I mean, there is and always has been in my house.

I don’t really understand why it should only be the responsibility of one group, and not shared. I had to teach myself to raise and lower the seat with my foot. Why shouldn’t everyone else?

[lkanies@hachyderm.io]

@scuttlebutt @mlanger @kboyd this is actually what eventually killed the debate at my house. Not about which gender has to touch the toilet, but about the health aspects

[kboyd@phpc.social]

@lkanies @mlanger "Restore to default" is not a responsibility to be shared. It is the responsibility of the person who modified the state.

[lkanies@hachyderm.io]

@kboyd @mlanger exactly. And that’s why women need to lift the seat back up after they pee.

I don’t see any way “men should do all the work” is the right answer unless you just think men should do the work. I can see why, sometimes, but everyone acts like there’s some objective reason, as opposed to just… they think men should do the work.

I’ve been having this argument for nearly 40 years, and I assume you’re just as set in your opinion.

[lkanies@hachyderm.io]

@kboyd @mlanger and I my whole original point was about the risk of asshole dudes peeing on the seat in public toilets, not what happens at home

[kboyd@phpc.social]

@lkanies Yes, quite. The default state is down, because everybody poops. And some people poop more urgently than others.

[mlanger@mastodon.world]

@lkanies @kboyd

[mlanger@mastodon.world]

@scuttlebutt @kboyd @lkanies Yes, I think closing the lid is a good idea. The only time it's not a good idea is if the toilet seat is made of painted wood. (The old ones were made that way; I recently was in a place that had a wood one.) When you close the lid, moisture builds up under the lid seat and the wood absorbs it. I think that's worse than some aerosol from flushing.

[scuttlebutt@farticle.cloud]

@mlanger @kboyd @lkanies Show of hands for who's ever been pinched or splintered from a wooden seat? (I have)

Haven't seen wooden lid nor seat in aeons though, not even in outhouses.