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I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

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  • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

    I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

    Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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    @Impossible_PhD #Alt4You image description (you may be able to update your post to make it more accessible): "Over 400,000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election

    This marks one of the largest domestic relocations in modern U.S. history."

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    • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

      I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

      Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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      lilo@muenster.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Impossible_PhD Where does this number come from? Could you please provide a source? (I've read the article linked further in the thread but the survey data seems to be older)

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      • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

        I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

        Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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        @Impossible_PhD

        That list keeps growing. I might be moving within a month or two after I started pursuing the most awesome opportunity last week and it is getting real 🥰

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        • lilo@muenster.imL lilo@muenster.im

          @Impossible_PhD Where does this number come from? Could you please provide a source? (I've read the article linked further in the thread but the survey data seems to be older)

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          @lilo Which number? The USTS is easily googlable, and the 400,000 number broke a few days ago, so that's easily googlable too.

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          • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

            I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

            Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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            #38

            @Impossible_PhD raises hand partner and I moved from "purple state" to "blue state" December 2024...

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            • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

              @lilo Which number? The USTS is easily googlable, and the 400,000 number broke a few days ago, so that's easily googlable too.

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              @Impossible_PhD I mean a source for the statement "Over 400,000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election". Found it now, for other readers: https://www.mapresearch.org/2025-norc-survey-report

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              • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                @Impossible_PhD I would've left the US faster if I could. I had to leave for the States midway through immigrating, got denied entry, and had to start the process from scratch in the US. Given that I'm literally just waiting on the PR card, I might have been able to be a card-carrying immigrant before 2025 ended if that didn't happen.

                I lived in Chicago previously since 2017. Were it not for the way the election went and the federal policy changes, I would've died, ideally of old age, in Chicago. The city saved my life, but I got tired of being a Cassandra after over a year of begging every trans person I had interactions with to take this shit seriously, to prepare to either flee or face literal warfare.

                While I may have been wrong about warfare, that's mostly because I overestimated how violent the response to what ICE is doing would be.

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                • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                  I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                  Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                  #41

                  @Impossible_PhD and, of course, a lot of us fled those states long ago for broadly similar reasons and thus don't appear in this number. the true amount of displacement is even larger. it's a profound indictment of the country and its dominant cultures.

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                  • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                    I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                    Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                    #42

                    @Impossible_PhD #ALT4you

                    Image tile. One sees two keys and a Trans Pride flag key fob on a keyring. The emphasized caption above the keyring reads: "Over 400.000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election"

                    Another caption under the keyring reads: This marks one of the largest domestic relocations in modern U.S. history.

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                    • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                      I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                      Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                      @Impossible_PhD

                      I was lucky, born and raised in California. Came out late in life, 22 years ago I came out at work. Being trans is not easy, 3/4 of the Trans people I knew are now dead from suicide or drug overdoses. The only advice I can give is to get all your documents drivers license, birth certificate and your financials in order, new name and sex, the last document I need is my passport.

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                      • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                        I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                        Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                        feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Impossible_PhD when ~1 million african americans moved from the south to the north in a short period of time in the early 1900s it was referred to as "The Great Migration"

                        I wonder what they'll call this in the history books
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                        • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                          I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                          Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                          @Impossible_PhD Makes sense, you want to be in a good state for when the civil war breaks out. I'd be doing the same thing if I lived in America.

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                          • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                            And, like any mass-migration, the folks moving first are those most able to. People with money, family, connections--this migration is ***noooooot*** over.

                            If this keeps up, percentage-wise, it may be the most rapid non-forced (ie Trail of Tears) mass-migration in American history.

                            I could absolutely be wrong here, to be clear. If I am, I'd appreciate any sociologists or historians popping in to correct me.

                            But over 12% of a demographic fleeing a region in a year is beyond flabbergasting to me.

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                            @Impossible_PhD
                            Experts are warning U.S. in early stages of Genocide against TransAmericans.

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                            Genocide scholars say policies targeting transgender Americans match early warning signs of mass atrocity.This piece has been updated from its original email version.Genocide scholars are sounding the alarm over what they describe as escalating attacks targeting transgender, nonbinary, and intersex Americans in the United States.Experts, including two former presidents of the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), warn that the nation may already be in the early stages of committ

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                            • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                              And, like any mass-migration, the folks moving first are those most able to. People with money, family, connections--this migration is ***noooooot*** over.

                              If this keeps up, percentage-wise, it may be the most rapid non-forced (ie Trail of Tears) mass-migration in American history.

                              I could absolutely be wrong here, to be clear. If I am, I'd appreciate any sociologists or historians popping in to correct me.

                              But over 12% of a demographic fleeing a region in a year is beyond flabbergasting to me.

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                              @Impossible_PhD it might be more similar to the Chinese Retreat in the late 1800s

                              e.g.,

                              > The retreat of Chinese residents from Idaho was especially striking. In 1870, Chinese made up one-third of the population of Idaho. By 1910, almost none remained.
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                              • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                                I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                                Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                                @Impossible_PhD I have trans friends that have moved to different countries since Dump became pedo in charge. And good for them for getting out when they could! I cannot blame anyone who is fleeing to perserve their lives. This administration is making its own citizens political refugees!

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                                • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

                                  @Impossible_PhD
                                  Experts are warning U.S. in early stages of Genocide against TransAmericans.

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                                  Experts Warn U.S. in Early Stages of Genocide Against Trans Americans

                                  Genocide scholars say policies targeting transgender Americans match early warning signs of mass atrocity.This piece has been updated from its original email version.Genocide scholars are sounding the alarm over what they describe as escalating attacks targeting transgender, nonbinary, and intersex Americans in the United States.Experts, including two former presidents of the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), warn that the nation may already be in the early stages of committ

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                                  @JoBlakely I am a trans professor. I'm very very well aware.

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                                  • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                                    @JoBlakely I am a trans professor. I'm very very well aware.

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                                    @Impossible_PhD oh. Sorry! I didn’t realize. Wasn’t trying to explain to you anything. Just add to the convo.

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                                    • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

                                      @Impossible_PhD oh. Sorry! I didn’t realize. Wasn’t trying to explain to you anything. Just add to the convo.

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                                      @JoBlakely Yeah, I'm literally writing a scholarly book right now, and cite that report in it. 😅

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                                      • impossible_phd@hachyderm.ioI impossible_phd@hachyderm.io

                                        @JoBlakely Yeah, I'm literally writing a scholarly book right now, and cite that report in it. 😅

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                                        @Impossible_PhD I probably heard about it from you!

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                                          @LukefromDC @Impossible_PhD While I suspect you're right, I want to specify that what I expected when ICE/CBP did start shooting civilians was more more deadly and more one-sided. (at least, initially) I expected us to be at tens or hundreds or casualties within the first few months. I expected millions of unambiguous American citizens sheltering in place for fear of being shot for allegedly aiding "illegal" immigrants. (when I say unambiguous, I unfortunately mean white, given how racist the administration is in their enforcement) It's frankly a miracle I was wrong about that, that whistles and phone cameras were as effective as they have been.

                                          It's almost entirely certain more people were shot and/or killed, given we learned of someone who got shot much sooner by ICE only just recently. I only hope that the success of nonviolent or far less violent action against CBP/ICE is indicative of how badly it'll go if things truly do escalate to the point where merely having a whistle and a phone won't be enough to prevent anyone from being shot.

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