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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

    ❌ No consent
    ❌ No opt-in
    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

    n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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    n_dimension@infosec.exchange
    wrote last edited by
    #6

    @Tutanota

    ...wow... That's super disingenious take.
    Pushing data is now the major contributor of climate collapse?

    A single backbone does about 24Tbits per second and the world is a spaghetti of these.
    A 4GB blob pushed to few tens of millions devices wouldn't even twitch the needle.

    The author is either naive or relies on the naivete of their readers.

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

      ❌ No consent
      ❌ No opt-in
      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

      lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      lumi@snug.moe
      wrote last edited by
      #7

      @Tutanota could i ask to have a look at our request to ban generative "ai" in all tutanota projects?

      github.com/tutao/tutanota/discussions/10759

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

        ❌ No consent
        ❌ No opt-in
        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

        dckim@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        dckim@mastodon.social
        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @Tutanota I really like the Gemini AI model. I have been using it from the google website, and it seems like it is miles ahead of all others.

        This is likely because Google has the largest Data Set of all. The other companies on have a small fraction of the Dataset that Google has, and likewise only fractional access to additional data through scraping/polls

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        • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

          @Tutanota

          ...wow... That's super disingenious take.
          Pushing data is now the major contributor of climate collapse?

          A single backbone does about 24Tbits per second and the world is a spaghetti of these.
          A 4GB blob pushed to few tens of millions devices wouldn't even twitch the needle.

          The author is either naive or relies on the naivete of their readers.

          leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
          leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
          leberschnitzel@existiert.ch
          wrote last edited by
          #9

          @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

            ❌ No consent
            ❌ No opt-in
            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

            c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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            c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @Tutanota there’s something obscene about using the nano prefix on something so large.

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            • leberschnitzel@existiert.chL leberschnitzel@existiert.ch

              @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

              n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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              n_dimension@infosec.exchange
              wrote last edited by
              #11

              @leberschnitzel @Tutanota

              Didn't get past the clickbite title, but now I'll have a look...

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                ❌ No consent
                ❌ No opt-in
                ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mokhtarstork@zirk.us
                wrote last edited by
                #12

                @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                  ❌ No consent
                  ❌ No opt-in
                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                  lbroggi@livellosegreto.itL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  lbroggi@livellosegreto.it
                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  @Tutanota For those who wonder about the CO2 cost, here is a direct quote

                  At Chrome's scale, the climate bill for one model push, paid in atmospheric CO2 by the entire planet, is between six thousand and sixty thousand tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions, depending on how many devices receive the push. That is the environmental cost of one company unilaterally deciding that two billion peoples' default browser will mass-distribute a 4 GB binary they did not request.

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                    ❌ No consent
                    ❌ No opt-in
                    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                    chantology@mastodon.gamedev.placeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    chantology@mastodon.gamedev.place
                    wrote last edited by
                    #14

                    @Tutanota

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                      ❌ No consent
                      ❌ No opt-in
                      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                      jetmcquack@mastodon.unoJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      jetmcquack@mastodon.uno
                      wrote last edited by
                      #15

                      @Tutanota

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                        ❌ No consent
                        ❌ No opt-in
                        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                        blindcoder@toot.berlinB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        blindcoder@toot.berlin
                        wrote last edited by
                        #16

                        @Tutanota It's not a "can" or "can not" situation. It's a "Google allows you to do that" situation.

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                          ❌ No consent
                          ❌ No opt-in
                          ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                          This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                          ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                          😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                          lemgandi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          lemgandi@mastodon.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #17

                          @Tutanota Don't be Evil

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                            ❌ No consent
                            ❌ No opt-in
                            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                            feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place
                            wrote last edited by
                            #18

                            @Tutanota but how is this model expected to run on my crappy hardware?

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                              ❌ No consent
                              ❌ No opt-in
                              ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                              This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                              ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                              😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

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                              locha@fediscience.org
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                              #19

                              @Tutanota Scratching my head: say we assume the best intents, is it better or worse than sending those requests to external server? Silent bloat or spyware?

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                              • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                @Tutanota Damn. The RAM crisis forced Google to regular computers and laptops to get more RAM.

                                On the serious note, it isn't that surprising.

                                mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                wrote last edited by
                                #20

                                @The_Universality @Tutanota They want to crash all local devices so they can sell us AI-slop cloud laptops that we don't control.

                                Google's new motto: YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY! ALSO WE'RE TOTALLY EVIL!

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                  ❌ No consent
                                  ❌ No opt-in
                                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                  yaqubpk@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @Tutanota install librewolf get rid chrome

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                    ❌ No consent
                                    ❌ No opt-in
                                    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                    fichusalon@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    fichusalon@mas.to
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #22

                                    @Tutanota next step, no more data center, but distributed LLM on our computers

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                                    • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                                      @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                                      mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #23

                                      @MokhtarStork @Tutanota As long as you still use Google Chrome on any OS, there's a chance of this happening again. I'd recommend using Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium or Helium instead. Hell, just drop the Chromium monopoly altogether and use LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser or Waterfox.

                                      On Android, I'd recommend Cromite, Ironfox, Fennec, or Iodé.

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                                        mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @ClintonAnderson @MokhtarStork @Tutanota https://beige.party/@mast0d0nphan/116522033827491424

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                          ❌ No consent
                                          ❌ No opt-in
                                          ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                          This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                          ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                          😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                          pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          pa27@mastodon.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @Tutanota On the bright side, none of my machines has the folder "OptGuideOnDeviceModel". So far so good! I'll keep a watch out for it.
                                          As for Claude desktop - why would anyone install that anyway?

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