I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone.
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I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone. If I did that, with all the random screen reader bugs and "something went wrongs" and buttons that clicked yesterday but repeat their titles today and on and on, I'd be a quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@stevo399 Yeah I don't understand it either. So many things just won't work on my phone, and so many folks (especially around my age) aren't even wanting to put in time to learn how to properly use screen readers on computers because "my phone does everything I need." It's honestly disappointing
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I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone. If I did that, with all the random screen reader bugs and "something went wrongs" and buttons that clicked yesterday but repeat their titles today and on and on, I'd be a quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@stevo399 I can't imagine doing all the everything period on a phone. Those people exist too.
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I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone. If I did that, with all the random screen reader bugs and "something went wrongs" and buttons that clicked yesterday but repeat their titles today and on and on, I'd be a quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone. If I did that, with all the random screen reader bugs and "something went wrongs" and buttons that clicked yesterday but repeat their titles today and on and on, I'd be a quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@stevo399 I like, if I may say so, "quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity.". That puts it very well. It is most admirable that people manage it, but I don't know how they do it. I've mentioned that I gave up on even very basic stuff on the phone, it's messaging, calling, and remote client. That really is all. I thought that eye doctor who went blind in the early 1900s was kidding about "legendary patience" of those of us who are born blind but maybe he had a point. @jpellis2008
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@jpellis2008 @BTyson @stevo399 Granted, I don't code or do anything complicated. I used a screen reader--JAWS and NVDA, for many years--and when I switched to using only my phone, I found there is very very little I cannot do using my phone. It does work well for some people, but certainly not for everyone. People who say it can't be done are not altogether correct. Some of us do this, and I'm one who plans never to return to using a computer again.
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@jpellis2008 @BTyson @stevo399 Granted, I don't code or do anything complicated. I used a screen reader--JAWS and NVDA, for many years--and when I switched to using only my phone, I found there is very very little I cannot do using my phone. It does work well for some people, but certainly not for everyone. People who say it can't be done are not altogether correct. Some of us do this, and I'm one who plans never to return to using a computer again.
@Lynn I certainly don't say, and don't think anyone says, it can't be done. People are obviously doing it. It's most admirable. My difficulty is the effort it takes for the reward one gets. It's the lack of speed that gets to me, as well as the way things change so quickly with app updates. As I said, I admire people who do it, but would never do it myself. @jpellis2008 @BTyson @stevo399
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I seriously don't get how many blind people manage to do 90 something percent of their online/logistical tasks on their phone. If I did that, with all the random screen reader bugs and "something went wrongs" and buttons that clicked yesterday but repeat their titles today and on and on, I'd be a quivvering jibbering gelatinous blob of insanity. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@stevo399 i do most on my Pixel but there are some things that I absolutely will only do on PC
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@Lynn I certainly don't say, and don't think anyone says, it can't be done. People are obviously doing it. It's most admirable. My difficulty is the effort it takes for the reward one gets. It's the lack of speed that gets to me, as well as the way things change so quickly with app updates. As I said, I admire people who do it, but would never do it myself. @jpellis2008 @BTyson @stevo399
@techsinger @stevo399 @BTyson @jpellis2008 The first year I did this, it took me more time because I was learning to use iOS at the same time. Perhaps, because I do basic things like texting, email, reading, writing and browsing the net, but I find I can do each of these things just as quickly on my phone as I could on the computer. I quite often forget I'm typing using a BT keyboard with my phone and not using a computer. I would say working with files--saving them and moving them around--took me the most time to learn and understand. Now, I do all that as a matter of course and don't even think about it.
As for app updates, I find they break very seldom, and I have yet to have sounds or speech suddenly disappear after app or even iOS updates. These things used to happen all the time with Windows updates, and is the primary reason I decided to use my phone. Also, app updates take almost no time for me to install, and i was spending what I considered to be way too much time updating the computer. The point I'm attempting to make here is, until one tries using their phone for more tasks, they really can't know how easy or difficult it is. Once I stopped expecting my phone to behave like my PC is when I really began to learn how to use it.
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@jpellis2008 @BTyson @stevo399 Granted, I don't code or do anything complicated. I used a screen reader--JAWS and NVDA, for many years--and when I switched to using only my phone, I found there is very very little I cannot do using my phone. It does work well for some people, but certainly not for everyone. People who say it can't be done are not altogether correct. Some of us do this, and I'm one who plans never to return to using a computer again.
@Lynn Yep, totally makes sense. I tend to rant about difficulties I have with technology, but that doesn't make them universal or applicable to everyone. On principle using the phone for things is a lot more convenient in the sense that you get a card-sized device that you can just whip out and go. I just find that even having used VoiceOver for like 15 years, knowing all the little tricks and shortcuts, I can still get things done far more quickly and personally with less hastle on a keyboard and a Windows machine.
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@Lynn Yep, totally makes sense. I tend to rant about difficulties I have with technology, but that doesn't make them universal or applicable to everyone. On principle using the phone for things is a lot more convenient in the sense that you get a card-sized device that you can just whip out and go. I just find that even having used VoiceOver for like 15 years, knowing all the little tricks and shortcuts, I can still get things done far more quickly and personally with less hastle on a keyboard and a Windows machine.
@stevo399 I tend to rant too much about Windows and Microsoft--less so about Apple--but I have issues with Apple also. I suppose that will always be the case.
My biggest problem with technology is being forced to endure features I'd really rather not have. Some of these, one can turn off, and others not. -
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