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LLM : the new PHP Hammer.

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  • felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    LLM : the new PHP Hammer. In regards to using LLMs to run devops commands on server fleets (Ubuntu news). This is a terrible idea. The tool exists already, Saltstack or Ansible (if you must). Define a strict expected state, reapply it routinely to verify it or alert when it wasn't. It should be Idempotent. Not probabilistic, guard rails or not. I know the folks involved are all smarter than I, but this seems like a misstep #ubuntu #leSigh

    felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF wonshu@mastodon.socialW rasmus91@fosstodon.orgR 3 Replies Last reply
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      LLM : the new PHP Hammer. In regards to using LLMs to run devops commands on server fleets (Ubuntu news). This is a terrible idea. The tool exists already, Saltstack or Ansible (if you must). Define a strict expected state, reapply it routinely to verify it or alert when it wasn't. It should be Idempotent. Not probabilistic, guard rails or not. I know the folks involved are all smarter than I, but this seems like a misstep #ubuntu #leSigh

      felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      Anyway can we not just get on to the next hottness while this tyre fire is still going, Quantum! Quantum configs, where nothings quite what it seems, the service is both started and failed. Surely we must be in a __superposition__ to know where we stand then... #sorry #getMyCoat

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      • felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF felimwhiteley@mastodon.social

        Anyway can we not just get on to the next hottness while this tyre fire is still going, Quantum! Quantum configs, where nothings quite what it seems, the service is both started and failed. Surely we must be in a __superposition__ to know where we stand then... #sorry #getMyCoat

        haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @felimwhiteley Quantum state... My service is both up and down!

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        • felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF felimwhiteley@mastodon.social

          LLM : the new PHP Hammer. In regards to using LLMs to run devops commands on server fleets (Ubuntu news). This is a terrible idea. The tool exists already, Saltstack or Ansible (if you must). Define a strict expected state, reapply it routinely to verify it or alert when it wasn't. It should be Idempotent. Not probabilistic, guard rails or not. I know the folks involved are all smarter than I, but this seems like a misstep #ubuntu #leSigh

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          @felimwhiteley maybe adventure seekers enjoy a moving target server configuration

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          • felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF felimwhiteley@mastodon.social

            Anyway can we not just get on to the next hottness while this tyre fire is still going, Quantum! Quantum configs, where nothings quite what it seems, the service is both started and failed. Surely we must be in a __superposition__ to know where we stand then... #sorry #getMyCoat

            shom@gts.shom.devS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @felimwhiteley we're going to deal with nondeterministic LLM output to meet idempotent requirements by constraining them with a quantum stage and record the transaction on the blockchain and issue NFT certificates which can be purchased with crypto.

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            • shom@gts.shom.devS shom@gts.shom.dev

              @felimwhiteley we're going to deal with nondeterministic LLM output to meet idempotent requirements by constraining them with a quantum stage and record the transaction on the blockchain and issue NFT certificates which can be purchased with crypto.

              helpstertee@social.helpsterte.euH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @shom@gts.shom.dev @felimwhiteley@mastodon.social Glad Ubuntu is building their own Torment Nexus instead of the widespread adoption of the despicable Torment Nexus for everyone else.

              Phew, dodged a bullet there!

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              • felimwhiteley@mastodon.socialF felimwhiteley@mastodon.social

                LLM : the new PHP Hammer. In regards to using LLMs to run devops commands on server fleets (Ubuntu news). This is a terrible idea. The tool exists already, Saltstack or Ansible (if you must). Define a strict expected state, reapply it routinely to verify it or alert when it wasn't. It should be Idempotent. Not probabilistic, guard rails or not. I know the folks involved are all smarter than I, but this seems like a misstep #ubuntu #leSigh

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                @felimwhiteley whats wrong with ansible?

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                • haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH haploc@fedi.cr-net.be

                  @felimwhiteley Quantum state... My service is both up and down!

                  jimsalter@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @haploc @felimwhiteley Schrödinger's PID, eh?

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