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  3. Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

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    Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

    And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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      Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

      And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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      @Migueldeicaza yeah now I definitely need to upgrade my M1 iMac.

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      • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

        Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

        And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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        piyuv@techhub.social
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        @Migueldeicaza why wasn’t it open in the first place? Oh right, it’s Apple… pay obscene amount of money for hardware you can’t even fully utilize

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          @Migueldeicaza why wasn’t it open in the first place? Oh right, it’s Apple… pay obscene amount of money for hardware you can’t even fully utilize

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          @piyuv internal APIs are done so you can change the implementation without breaking people - that’s why people do it. Every time you expose things it ties your hands.

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          • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

            Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

            And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

            dotsie@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            dotsie@mastodon.social
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            @Migueldeicaza

            It will be interesting if this works on the new 40 and probably 80 core M5 Max / Ultra models.

            Are people modifying this to leverage operations for inference? The GitHub is focused on training, curious if this could be leveraged to help speed up some TTFT stuff which would be genuinely useful.

            Apple should really expose this in the next OS especially with 40 - 80 of these neural accelerators in their top M5 processors.

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            • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

              Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

              And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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              @Migueldeicaza I’m confused, isn’t a model that’s converted to MLX effectively always running on the neural engine? Or it just on the GPU?

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              • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

                And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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                @Migueldeicaza I think Apple's AI strategy should really be: don't make their own model but make a software strategy that can beat cuda and leverage apple silicon memory model to beat NVidia (i.e. have OpenAI lining up to buy mac minis)

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                • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                  Yesterday they reverse engineered Apple’s neural engine: https://github.com/maderix/ANE

                  And today people are running the amazing Qwen3.5 accelerated on an m1, this is insane:

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                  @Migueldeicaza wasn't it already reversed by @AsahiLinux people here https://github.com/eiln/ane ? What's the difference exactly?

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