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  3. ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

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  • linker3000@mastodon.socialL linker3000@mastodon.social

    People used to laugh when I said I'd fixed their squealing hard drive by oiling it.

    Seagate used to have a grounding strip that sat atop a bearing on the end of the spindle (outside the drive) and at a push you could apply some graphite from a soft pencil to stop it being noisy.

    Happy days.

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    @linker3000 I once had an HP calculator with a magnetic card reader. When the cards got dirty, you cleaned them with a pencil eraser.

    Linux's knowledge of file formats can be investigated with

    $ strings /usr/share/file/magic.mgc | more

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    • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

      @tubetime

      Ok, figured the interleave out:

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      LIF

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      (phk.freebsd.dk)

      Now we just need an examiner for the AutoArchaeologist to list the HP-BASIC programs

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      @tubetime

      Hmm, i think there's still something not quite right about the interleave: I'm seeing too much 0x6d 0xb6 in places it should not be.

      Or maybe there is a bad-block remapping we need to figure out.

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      • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

        @tubetime

        Hmm, i think there's still something not quite right about the interleave: I'm seeing too much 0x6d 0xb6 in places it should not be.

        Or maybe there is a bad-block remapping we need to figure out.

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        @tubetime

        Ok, I think I got it now.

        The interleave is:

        [0, 9, 18, 27, 4, 13, 22, 8, 17, 26, 3, 12, 21, 30, 7, 16, 25, 2, 11, 20, 29, 6, 15, 24, 1, 10, 19, 28, 5, 14]

        I've also added a very rudimentary BASIC-detokenizer (git pull to get it), and updated the output here:

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        Master Index: HP85 Basic

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        (phk.freebsd.dk)

        (Bedtime in Denmark now 🙂

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          digging around on this drive, i've found a bunch of software for the HP-85, including a program designed to control the HP 5005B Signature Multimeter. presumably none of this stuff has ever been preserved before.

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          huh, i reconnected everything and plugged the drive into my HP85, and it actually works! i can read the files on it.

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          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

            huh, i reconnected everything and plugged the drive into my HP85, and it actually works! i can read the files on it.

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            one of the programs.

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            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

              one of the programs.

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              unfortunately the floppy drive isn't quite working. i can't format this new disk. the drive makes a very rattly sound, so it's probably something mechanical.

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              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                unfortunately the floppy drive isn't quite working. i can't format this new disk. the drive makes a very rattly sound, so it's probably something mechanical.

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                3 1/2" = light mode
                5 1/4" = dark mode

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  huh, i reconnected everything and plugged the drive into my HP85, and it actually works! i can read the files on it.

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                  @tubetime

                  Oh pretty HP85. HP and 3M executives never suffered the pain they should have for inflicting those damn DC100A cartridge/drives on users.

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                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                    3 1/2" = light mode
                    5 1/4" = dark mode

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                    @tubetime why do these seem like GPIB devices

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                    • darryl_ramm@hachyderm.ioD darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io

                      @tubetime

                      Oh pretty HP85. HP and 3M executives never suffered the pain they should have for inflicting those damn DC100A cartridge/drives on users.

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                      @darryl_ramm yeah those are awful

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                      • xan@xantronix.socialX xan@xantronix.social

                        @tubetime why do these seem like GPIB devices

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                        @xan they are HPIB which is technically not GPIB. but basically yeah.

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                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                          @xan they are HPIB which is technically not GPIB. but basically yeah.

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                          @tubetime I knew it! They've got that testing equipment physiognomy (I wanted to say HPIB originally but I was honestly expecting to catch heat from somebody saying "WELL ACKSHUALLY" in the other direction)

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                          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                            @darryl_ramm yeah those are awful

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                            @tubetime

                            It's not like they were ever that reliable to start with.

                            **Insert ad for EBKS multipurpose storage/expansion module for HP80 Series**

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                            EBTKS Overview — EBTKS 1.0 documentation

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                            (www.fliptronics.com)

                            - YouTube

                            Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                            Thanks Philip et al. My 85 and 87 have them.

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                              @tubetime

                              It's not like they were ever that reliable to start with.

                              **Insert ad for EBKS multipurpose storage/expansion module for HP80 Series**

                              Link Preview Image
                              EBTKS Overview — EBTKS 1.0 documentation

                              favicon

                              (www.fliptronics.com)

                              - YouTube

                              Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

                              favicon

                              (www.youtube.com)

                              Thanks Philip et al. My 85 and 87 have them.

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                              @darryl_ramm i have one in this machine.

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                              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                one of the programs.

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                                @tubetime

                                Cool!

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                                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                  huh, i reconnected everything and plugged the drive into my HP85, and it actually works! i can read the files on it.

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                                  @tubetime so gorgeous and stunning

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                                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                    one of the programs.

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                                    @tubetime

                                    If you have an easy way to accomplish it, can you send me listings of some of the programs, so I can work on the BASIC lister code ?

                                    For instance the "BIORHY" program, which I suspect is a HP demo ?

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                                    • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                                      @tubetime

                                      If you have an easy way to accomplish it, can you send me listings of some of the programs, so I can work on the BASIC lister code ?

                                      For instance the "BIORHY" program, which I suspect is a HP demo ?

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                                      @bsdphk sent you the file in an email.

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                                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                        @bsdphk sent you the file in an email.

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                                        @tubetime

                                        Thanks, got it.

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                                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                          3 1/2" = light mode
                                          5 1/4" = dark mode

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                                          got some time to take the drive out again and clean it again. i ended up having to remove this entire sliding side plate because there was still some old crusty lubricant. it is much better now. i also lubricated the head stepper worm gear.

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