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  3. Am I correct that with #ActivityPub, any org can run a server with their name in the domain and each member getting their own username, but using #ATproto, every individual would need to get their own domain name?

Am I correct that with #ActivityPub, any org can run a server with their name in the domain and each member getting their own username, but using #ATproto, every individual would need to get their own domain name?

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    Am I correct that with #ActivityPub, any org can run a server with their name in the domain and each member getting their own username, but using #ATproto, every individual would need to get their own domain name? I guess subdomains are possible. And those would probably just redirect, the structure and costs meaning they probably don't actually represent an app view or PDS or whatever?

    #bluesky

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      Am I correct that with #ActivityPub, any org can run a server with their name in the domain and each member getting their own username, but using #ATproto, every individual would need to get their own domain name? I guess subdomains are possible. And those would probably just redirect, the structure and costs meaning they probably don't actually represent an app view or PDS or whatever?

      #bluesky

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      @wjmaggos
      - atproto requires a DNS name (and the TXT record points to a DID which points to a PDS)
      - activitypub requires a URI (which in most cases you just HTTP GET directly, optionally following HTTP redirects)
      - you could satisfy both by assigning subdomains or letting users bring their own domain

      so alice.social.example and https://alice.social.example could be used ~equivalently, but https:// social.example/alice wouldn't work as an atproto identity.

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        @wjmaggos
        - atproto requires a DNS name (and the TXT record points to a DID which points to a PDS)
        - activitypub requires a URI (which in most cases you just HTTP GET directly, optionally following HTTP redirects)
        - you could satisfy both by assigning subdomains or letting users bring their own domain

        so alice.social.example and https://alice.social.example could be used ~equivalently, but https:// social.example/alice wouldn't work as an atproto identity.

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        @trwnh

        I don't understand your equivalent example.

        as I understand it, AP would use @alice@example.com while AT would use alice.example.com. then bob and carol etc.

        AP would have one server for all the users, both data store and how they post/read etc. would AT require a different PDS for data for each account and then have most people still use bluesky or maybe blacksky for posting/reading etc? I know they could run their own app view but the cost would be much higher than an AP server etc.

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          @trwnh

          I don't understand your equivalent example.

          as I understand it, AP would use @alice@example.com while AT would use alice.example.com. then bob and carol etc.

          AP would have one server for all the users, both data store and how they post/read etc. would AT require a different PDS for data for each account and then have most people still use bluesky or maybe blacksky for posting/reading etc? I know they could run their own app view but the cost would be much higher than an AP server etc.

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          @wjmaggos oh, the @alice@example.com you see is not the real identifier, it's a third thing altogether that usually forwards to a URL, via something called WebFinger (which mastodon requires, but activitypub doesn't require it).

          AP uses the same URLs you would be able to load in a web browser because it's a web spec. So for example you are https://liberal.city/users/wjmaggos as far as AP is concerned. You *could* be https://wjmaggos.liberal.city/ but mastodon doesn't currently support that.

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