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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    If you're interested in learning more about implementations of resistance in this era of unchecked Big AI, direct action strategies and the techno-politics therein, be sure to check out ASRG's site (https://algorithmic-sabotage.gitlab.io/asrg/) and give them a follow here on Mastodon (@asrg).

    They've put a lot of heartbeats and neurons - human stuff - into this area.

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    @JulianOliver @asrg@tldr.nettime.org What happened to this account/website?

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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      Actual hits dropping slightly, but more data is pulled from the tarpit day on day. This is reflected by a higher proportion of HTTP 200's - so less bad req's. Less reaching for what isn't there, just want the madness.

      Unclear why this has changed.

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      Great article https://dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        Great article https://dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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        @JulianOliver peer-reviewed just isn’t what it used to be 😅

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        • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

          @JulianOliver peer-reviewed just isn’t what it used to be 😅

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          @scott haha

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          • caleb@pub.calebhearth.comC caleb@pub.calebhearth.com

            @JulianOliver @asrg@tldr.nettime.org What happened to this account/website?

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            @caleb oh dear, I don't know. Perhaps down while working on it?

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              Great article https://dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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              @JulianOliver
              That’s beautiful 🍄

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

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                Science is Poetry

                favicon

                (julianoliver.com)

                #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                @JulianOliver several, hit me up

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                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                  It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                  Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                  To think the www was built for people.

                  And here we are

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                  @JulianOliver could you explain what we are seeing here , for dummies ;-))) Is this different to cookies , and “normal” background web activity as a result of search.

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                  • paulhanrahan@mastodon.socialP paulhanrahan@mastodon.social

                    @JulianOliver could you explain what we are seeing here , for dummies ;-))) Is this different to cookies , and “normal” background web activity as a result of search.

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                    @paulhanrahan Sure! This is log output captured on the server itself, not a local machine. Each line is a page read (an 'HTTP GET' request) by an AI crawler. At the time this was captured, the crawlers were predominantly those of OpenAI, Meta and Anthropic. If you look closely at the log output, you will be able to pick out the 'user agent' strings (declared client identities) of those bots.

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      Great article https://dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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                      @JulianOliver found another great one. Maybe the greatest of all time:

                      https://madhattercorp.com/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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                      • themadhatter@mastodon.socialT themadhatter@mastodon.social

                        @JulianOliver found another great one. Maybe the greatest of all time:

                        https://madhattercorp.com/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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                        @themadhatter yes that's beautiful alright!

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          Great article https://dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch/blog/hasnt/digitizer%20provided%20obsoleteness

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                          My log analysis shows that what these AI crawlers do is swarm content to get around rate limiting; with many end-points each can be limited to sane human defaults and their automation can still harvest content at massive scales from the same source in little time.

                          I noticed however that (for unknown reasons) Anthropic started reducing the number of crawler endpoints, tapering down traffic from them. So I doubled the rate to 2/s. This added over 100k hits to the logs in a day.

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            If you're interested in learning more about implementations of resistance in this era of unchecked Big AI, direct action strategies and the techno-politics therein, be sure to check out ASRG's site (https://algorithmic-sabotage.gitlab.io/asrg/) and give them a follow here on Mastodon (@asrg).

                            They've put a lot of heartbeats and neurons - human stuff - into this area.

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                            @JulianOliver both links here are 404s as of today - but i will make a note of this name 🙂

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                            • xurizaemon@toot.cafeX xurizaemon@toot.cafe

                              @JulianOliver both links here are 404s as of today - but i will make a note of this name 🙂

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                              @xurizaemon Yes, it seems soon after my post they took down the account and page. I don't think the two are related and hope they return soon!

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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                My log analysis shows that what these AI crawlers do is swarm content to get around rate limiting; with many end-points each can be limited to sane human defaults and their automation can still harvest content at massive scales from the same source in little time.

                                I noticed however that (for unknown reasons) Anthropic started reducing the number of crawler endpoints, tapering down traffic from them. So I doubled the rate to 2/s. This added over 100k hits to the logs in a day.

                                Link Preview Image
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                                @JulianOliver one strategy to defend against this. A tiny bit memory intensive but I think manageable.

                                This is not for your project but for anyone defending against I scrapers.

                                Crawler A pulls page A and gets a link to page B. This is specific to the request and invisible in the page or else try to only serve up to crawlers.

                                Crawler B tries to pull page B but we know it never pulled page A so can't know about it. Ban both A and B.

                                This has to check source IP and keep track of that. But!

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                                  @JulianOliver crazy

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                                  • coldclimate@hachyderm.ioC coldclimate@hachyderm.io

                                    @JulianOliver several, hit me up

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                                    @coldclimate Apologies for the delay. If you're still up for it, here are the 2 records needed:

                                    A: 95.216.76.85
                                    AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                    Let me know once done and I'll set it all up serverside 🙂

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                                    • aks@scalie.zoneA aks@scalie.zone

                                      @JulianOliver i could dedicate subdomains such as science.akselmo.dev to this. Just let me know how.

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                                      @aks Apologies for the delay. If you're still up for it, here are the 2 records needed:

                                      A: 95.216.76.85
                                      AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                      Let me know once done and I'll set it all up serverside 🙂

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                                      • thgie@post.lurk.orgT thgie@post.lurk.org

                                        You can add `dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch` to the list. Thanks for all your work!

                                        @JulianOliver

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                                        @thgie I still can't get past how perfect this domain is. Thanks again.

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                                          @perhammer Apologies for the delay. If you're still up for it, here are the 2 records needed:

                                          A: 95.216.76.85
                                          AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                                          Let me know once done and I'll set it all up serverside 🙂

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