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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account...

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

    someguy@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @sundogplanets I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for #actuallyautistic #communication to be mistaken for #mansplaining.

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    • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

      @LauraleeDukeshire @ives @sundogplanets I'm a woman and I do this all the time. In my work I'm frequently meeting people for the first time and I'm unsure how much info they have on the subject of the meeting. So often my first question is just what you said: "are you familiar with X, or would it help if I gave some background?" It works!

      loops@neurodifferent.meL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #45

      @ives @sundogplanets @lauerhahn @LauraleeDukeshire I gotta say, that phrasing particularly is really bad for me as an autistic person. All I wind up thinking is “I don’t know what you consider familiarity and if it’s the same thing I consider familiar, I wish you’d just give me the background that you think is relevant to your point, and let me filter for myself if it’s useful right now”

      It winds up with so many meetings going poorly because there is no universal and usefully external measure of familiarity with a given topic

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      • dadube@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @platypusparent @ministerofimpediments @sundogplanets

        My people! I'm sorry I happen to be a man.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

          roodie@social.vivaldi.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #47

          @sundogplanets

          How do you measure relevance of experience?Also, can you count experience in numbers? I mean, when you say "s/he has more experience" how does that compare to less experiences but with heavier weight?

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
            https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

            ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #48

            @sundogplanets Actually, kinda useful, thanks! Will need to post this above my monitor 🤪

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            • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

              @sundogplanets @socketwench

              Shall we crowd fund this?

              crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #49

              @LappenjammerDieZweite @sundogplanets @socketwench how big of an electric shock does it administer to the mansplainer when the level reaches red?

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              • venite@mastodon.nlV venite@mastodon.nl

                @sundogplanets we need t-shirts. On the back would be great

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                #50

                @venite @sundogplanets Maybe front & back, because I think they'd be more likely to read it if tits were involved.

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                • roodie@social.vivaldi.netR roodie@social.vivaldi.net

                  @sundogplanets

                  How do you measure relevance of experience?Also, can you count experience in numbers? I mean, when you say "s/he has more experience" how does that compare to less experiences but with heavier weight?

                  femme_mal@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #51

                  @Roodie This ^ is whataboutism, an attempt to undermine the point being made, a common follow-on in mansplaining which attempts to contest the mansplained expert's legitimacy and authority.

                  *block*

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                    stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #52

                    @sundogplanets
                    I realize that misogyny leads to that kind of behavior far worse than I as a man have ever experienced. But I'm a short man, and can tell you that I've received some of that being ignored pattern also.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                      https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                      sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #53

                      @sundogplanets
                      No, don't do that. It's a bad idea and I can tell you why…

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                        fragmentos@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #54

                        @sundogplanets lol

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                        • socketwench@masto.hackers.townS socketwench@masto.hackers.town

                          @cascheranno @sundogplanets Universe, I need one of those too.

                          koh_kun@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #55

                          @socketwench @cascheranno @sundogplanets when I was a kid, we'd tell each other that "the needle on our caring meter is falling," in reference to the Care Bear and just stop listening.

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                          • someguy@beige.partyS someguy@beige.party

                            @sundogplanets I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for #actuallyautistic #communication to be mistaken for #mansplaining.

                            hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #56

                            @someguy

                            It would probably be way less common, if so many people would use an actual definition, instead of just whether it "feels like mansplaining" to them.

                            In some contexts, I've even seen disagreement being framed as mansplaining (which it can be, but not necessarily is), because if you disagree with a woman as a man, you're "explaining your opinion/the reason why you disagree to her", which is just absurd.

                            To many, the term seems to be misleading.

                            1/

                            @sundogplanets

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                            • socketwench@masto.hackers.townS socketwench@masto.hackers.town

                              @cascheranno @sundogplanets Universe, I need one of those too.

                              sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #57

                              @socketwench @cascheranno @sundogplanets
                              Universe! I like your exclamations!

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                              • hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH hauchvonstaub@nrw.social

                                @someguy

                                It would probably be way less common, if so many people would use an actual definition, instead of just whether it "feels like mansplaining" to them.

                                In some contexts, I've even seen disagreement being framed as mansplaining (which it can be, but not necessarily is), because if you disagree with a woman as a man, you're "explaining your opinion/the reason why you disagree to her", which is just absurd.

                                To many, the term seems to be misleading.

                                1/

                                @sundogplanets

                                hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #58

                                @someguy

                                I've never seen a single incident of actual mansplaining, that would have needed this chart, since "Do I actually care about this topic, or do I just want female attention?", would have already been enough.

                                2/2

                                @sundogplanets

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                  https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                                  sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #59

                                  Ok the comments are more obnoxious than funny now, so muting this thread!

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Ok the comments are more obnoxious than funny now, so muting this thread!

                                    davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #60

                                    @sundogplanets dayumn

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                      https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                                      npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #61

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.

                                      It's mistaken for mansplaining.

                                      Or as hijacking the intent of their post.

                                      Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs

                                      Apologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.

                                      You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                        @sundogplanets I had to have a Me Me version 🙂 so here's a bad one...

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                                          @colinux

                                          nice when a thread shows who to block

                                          @sundogplanets

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