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  3. Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

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  • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

    @neil Yeah, before I saw you last sentence I was gonna ask "have any of these fines ever been paid?"

    bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @TimWardCam @neil I wonder how/if these firms even account for these fines.

    As a company registered in a foreign jurisdiction, they will almost certainly file annual accounts which might even be audited. Does a fine like this appear as a liability on the balance sheet even? Does a 'provision' get made for it?

    Or it it just literally "you can't enforce this" so it's not a liability at all.

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    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

      @TimWardCam @neil I wonder how/if these firms even account for these fines.

      As a company registered in a foreign jurisdiction, they will almost certainly file annual accounts which might even be audited. Does a fine like this appear as a liability on the balance sheet even? Does a 'provision' get made for it?

      Or it it just literally "you can't enforce this" so it's not a liability at all.

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      @bloor @neil There might just be a line in the annual accounts each year "there are always various foreign legal cases going on, but investors don't need to worry about them."

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

        I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

        (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

        Just a moment...

        favicon

        (www.ofcom.org.uk)

        russss@chaos.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @neil I wonder how long the government will keep these owed fines on their balance sheet...

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

          I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

          (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

          Just a moment...

          favicon

          (www.ofcom.org.uk)

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          #7

          @neil are there even consequences for not paying when they fine entities outside the UK (except being blocked)?

          that doesn't seem to be very different from how the chinese government was demanding eg. google to "comply with laws of china"

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

            I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

            (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.ofcom.org.uk)

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            #8

            @neil

            If any are paid I would be shocked and surprised.

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            • ahnlak@kavlak.ukA ahnlak@kavlak.uk

              @neil all starts to feel rather performative, doesn't it?

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              @ahnlak @neil

              Yes, it does. Ofcom helpfully even gives the URLs of porn sites that don't do age-verification.

              Whisper who dares, but could #Ofcom be deliberately making a mockery of this unenforceable Act?

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

                I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

                (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.ofcom.org.uk)

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                #10

                @neil OFCOM's enforcement is entirely performative and overblown.

                Rather like some of the content they're fining overseas orgs for, but without the alleged happy ending.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

                  I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

                  (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (www.ofcom.org.uk)

                  rachel@norfolk.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @neil if a company has no presence in the UK at the time of the fine bit then opens a local subsidiary, is that subsidiary liable for a fine levied before it even existed?

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

                    I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

                    (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

                    Just a moment...

                    favicon

                    (www.ofcom.org.uk)

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                    #12

                    @neil I'm still a bit confused how one can fine a company that has an online presence but does not operate in your country? Can you ELI5 that? That your contry can access the internet does not mean you have juristiction over all content there?

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                    • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                      @ahnlak @neil

                      Yes, it does. Ofcom helpfully even gives the URLs of porn sites that don't do age-verification.

                      Whisper who dares, but could #Ofcom be deliberately making a mockery of this unenforceable Act?

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                      #13

                      @CppGuy @ahnlak @neil lol, never considered that angle of it

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        Ofcom has fined another porn site operator - in Cyprus, I think - £600,000 under the UK's #OnlineSafetyAct.

                        I'm struggling to think of another regulatory regime where the fines have flowed so rapidly.

                        (Or, I anticipate, where so few will be paid.)

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (www.ofcom.org.uk)

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                        @neil I think Ofcom may be trying to make a not-very-subtle point to .gov.uk that their cunning plan isn't working.

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                        • sldrant@mastodon.socialS sldrant@mastodon.social

                          @CppGuy @ahnlak @neil lol, never considered that angle of it

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                          @sldrant @CppGuy @neil I'm unconvinced that Ofcom would be so cunning and creative...

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                          • ahnlak@kavlak.ukA ahnlak@kavlak.uk

                            @sldrant @CppGuy @neil I'm unconvinced that Ofcom would be so cunning and creative...

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                            @ahnlak @sldrant @neil

                            Plausible deniability, see? It's the master stroke!

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