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  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    688: A Company Man
    https://atp.fm/688

    John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

      688: A Company Man
      https://atp.fm/688

      John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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      @atpfm photo caption was unexpected but correct

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      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

        688: A Company Man
        https://atp.fm/688

        John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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        @atpfm What Nobel committee do you submit a podcast to in order to nominate it for best chapter titles?

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        • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

          688: A Company Man
          https://atp.fm/688

          John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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          @atpfm Marco defending subscriptions to use hardware that you’ve already purchased definitely wasn’t on my bingo card.

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          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

            688: A Company Man
            https://atp.fm/688

            John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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            @atpfm

            I'm confused.

            It wasn't OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Apple's sake, but it is OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Ternus' sake?

            That is still Ternus & the Board's responsibility. Nothing has changed.

            Every time Cook kisses Trump's rear, that is Ternus doing it.

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            • dschaub@mstdn.socialD dschaub@mstdn.social

              @atpfm

              I'm confused.

              It wasn't OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Apple's sake, but it is OK for Tim to kiss Trump's rear for Ternus' sake?

              That is still Ternus & the Board's responsibility. Nothing has changed.

              Every time Cook kisses Trump's rear, that is Ternus doing it.

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              @dschaub It's the same either way, but Tim doing it will absorb some of the blame that would have fallen on Ternus more directly if Ternus was the one doing it. Perception, not reality. The only actual fix is to stop doing it at all (which would have been easier if Tim had left Apple entirely).

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              • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                688: A Company Man
                https://atp.fm/688

                John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                @atpfm I am not sure about @siracusa’s advice to young people that John Ternus is proof you don’t need an advanced degree to be successful (e.g., Apple CEO), considering that Ternus graduated nearly 10 years before many recent graduates were born. The credentialism/degree inflation is a modern problem.

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                • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                  688: A Company Man
                  https://atp.fm/688

                  John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                  @atpfm haha, I get the audiophile thing. I'm always in favor of decent pro equipment, or maybe like a Rotel. But that stuff isn't crazy expensive.

                  You can hear it on Apple Music. Everything is lossless now, use your fancy audio interfaces (Sound Devices?), you'll hear it. It also works with AirPods Max with USB-C wired. But I spend most of the programming day walking around with old AirPods Max wireless. I do notice when I switch to the audio interface. But that's a lot of listening to notice.

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                    @atpfm Marco defending subscriptions to use hardware that you’ve already purchased definitely wasn’t on my bingo card.

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                    @lukeratta @atpfm Key differentiator that I believe was missed with the Sirius XM example: They have ongoing costs to pay for talent, media, satellites, staff, etc. It's the same as why a subscription for an app is tenable. Perfectly good hardware that *only* fails to function because of a subscription is not tenable (i.e. wiring and buttons to turn on seat heat).

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                    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                      688: A Company Man
                      https://atp.fm/688

                      John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                      @atpfm Here is some completely unfounded blind gossip:
                      "The fruit company is going to buy a satellite company. It wouldn't have been allowed by the government before but they gave the government a secret key into their phones which they had never previously allowed. It is why the head of the company left."

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                      • sayrer@mastodon.socialS sayrer@mastodon.social

                        @atpfm haha, I get the audiophile thing. I'm always in favor of decent pro equipment, or maybe like a Rotel. But that stuff isn't crazy expensive.

                        You can hear it on Apple Music. Everything is lossless now, use your fancy audio interfaces (Sound Devices?), you'll hear it. It also works with AirPods Max with USB-C wired. But I spend most of the programming day walking around with old AirPods Max wireless. I do notice when I switch to the audio interface. But that's a lot of listening to notice.

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                        @atpfm @siracusa you can also read this for the amps. I haven't tried it, since I don't have an excuse, but check this out: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2024/09/09/Next-Step-Audiophile

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                        • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                          688: A Company Man
                          https://atp.fm/688

                          John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                          @atpfm
                          @marcoarment

                          Will Apple ever be a leader in AI models… probably not.

                          Does that matter… absolutely not.

                          AI is a commodity and a feature, not a platform. Apple will get enough AI, and companies that are nothing but AI will fail.

                          So I feel, Apple failed at something that doesn’t matter much, so nothing bad for Cook there.

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                          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                            688: A Company Man
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                            John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                            @atpfm I largely agree with everyone on Tim Apple but imo tech people over rank AI.

                            MS is apologizing for Windows & claiming to reduce copilot stuff (it's not really iirc). The darling of AI is already becoming passé. Ex: https://mastodon.social/@carnage4life@mas.to/116443578602305566

                            I know it makes for something exciting to talk about but short of an another innovation, I don't see LLMs on their own being anything special. Apple has the users and their data. An LLM that competently works with the data. Without the data it's a toy.

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                              688: A Company Man
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                              John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                              @atpfm

                              I’m ok with locking hardware features behind software, since it’s often cheaper (and faster which makes company more money) to have fewer product SKU since assembly line doesn’t have to be swapped / reconfigured.

                              These savings can sometimes be passed down to users.

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                                @atpfm I largely agree with everyone on Tim Apple but imo tech people over rank AI.

                                MS is apologizing for Windows & claiming to reduce copilot stuff (it's not really iirc). The darling of AI is already becoming passé. Ex: https://mastodon.social/@carnage4life@mas.to/116443578602305566

                                I know it makes for something exciting to talk about but short of an another innovation, I don't see LLMs on their own being anything special. Apple has the users and their data. An LLM that competently works with the data. Without the data it's a toy.

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                                @atpfm An open ai HomePod knock-off or some kegel egg shaped device isn't going to convert people off smart phones.

                                The smart thing would have been to start with a new smartphone but that's hard work that they don't want to do it. Most companies don't want to do it.

                                That's the true advantage Apple has. That's why people are talking about the Neo eating Windows' lunch rather than copilot PCs eating macOS' lunch.

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                                • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

                                  @dschaub It's the same either way, but Tim doing it will absorb some of the blame that would have fallen on Ternus more directly if Ternus was the one doing it. Perception, not reality. The only actual fix is to stop doing it at all (which would have been easier if Tim had left Apple entirely).

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                                  @siracusa

                                  I think the causation is wrong there.

                                  it isn’t “Tim is sticking around” that is the problem. It is “the Board and Ternus’ likely decision to continue to kiss Trump’s rear” that is.

                                  Anything Tim does is all Ternus’ fault… ignore the shell game.

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                                    @siracusa

                                    I think the causation is wrong there.

                                    it isn’t “Tim is sticking around” that is the problem. It is “the Board and Ternus’ likely decision to continue to kiss Trump’s rear” that is.

                                    Anything Tim does is all Ternus’ fault… ignore the shell game.

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                                    @dschaub Like I said on the show, I think it's a lot harder to make a U-turn on a policy when the guy who created the policy is looking over your shoulder. I think Tim will loom large in Ternus's mind (and in his actual working life, probably) during his early time as CEO.

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                                      @atpfm

                                      My bet is he "transitions" to still being a massive ass-kisser...

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                                      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                                        688: A Company Man
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                                        @atpfm UPenn might not meet @siracusa ‘s high standards but it is an Ivy League school, FWIW

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                                          688: A Company Man
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                                          John Ternus was announced as Apple’s next CEO! We review the strengths and weaknesses of the Tim Cook era as he transitions to Executive Chairman.

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                                          @atpfm @siracusa but what if he turns out a bigger arsehole ?

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