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  • ignova@mstdn.caI ignova@mstdn.ca

    @benroyce @crow i think there is a significant and unjustified shifting of blame going on when people say that normal posts have 'caused' panic attacks, nightmares, and so on.

    non-extreme posts are not the primary cause of mental health tailspins. a picture of a sandwich does not 'cause' someone to spiral into an eating disorder relapse. if something so innocuous sets that person off, they were already on the brink, and it's unfair to blame the sandwich poster for severe mental health issues that were actually caused by something else.

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    @ignova @benroyce @crow

    If I can prevent setting a person off by adding a CW, I'll gladly do that~

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    • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

      @benroyce Man, I am sick to death of people trying to enforce CWs. Responsible adults do NOT expect others to placate their sensibilities/fears/etc.

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      @alexpsmith @benroyce

      So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        @benroyce @crow

        The simple response is to block them. If someone tries to tell you how to use Mastodon just block them.

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        @mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

        Blocking you now then...

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        • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

          @mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

          Blocking you now then...

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          @sibrosan @mastodonmigration @crow

          why

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          • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

            @alexpsmith @benroyce

            So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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            @sibrosan @benroyce Yes, of course they are, though they may pretend it's for some public good (what rubbish). Certain exceptions might exist, such as belonging to a group with specific rules about what people can post and what would require a content warning. But that isn't the case here, of course.

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            • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

              @alexpsmith @benroyce

              So anyone trying to enforce CWs is doing that because of *their own* sensibilities/fears/etc., you think

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              @sibrosan @alexpsmith

              and what right does anyone have to tell someone else how to CW

              on the terms of gore or porn, yes

              on the terms of extreme sensitivities no. that doesn't mean someone won't be harmed. it means it is absolutely impossible to abide by ridiculous standards

              you may CW your own content as you like. on any rationale

              you have zero right to enforce this on others

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                drama!

                i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

                i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

                i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

                certainly some are sincere

                but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

                gore? absolutely CW

                but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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                @benroyce

                I got so irritated by ridiculous CWs that I changed the settings in the control panel to disable them.

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                • miona@toot.lgbtM miona@toot.lgbt

                  @ignova @benroyce @crow

                  If I can prevent setting a person off by adding a CW, I'll gladly do that~

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                  @miona @ignova @crow

                  and nobody is saying you shouldn't

                  you may CW your content however you like

                  that is 100% your concern and your right

                  what the issue is here is people trying to enforce their CW standards onto other people's posts

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                  • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce

                    I got so irritated by ridiculous CWs that I changed the settings in the control panel to disable them.

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                    @riggbeck

                    i do the same

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                    • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                      @sibrosan @benroyce Yes, of course they are, though they may pretend it's for some public good (what rubbish). Certain exceptions might exist, such as belonging to a group with specific rules about what people can post and what would require a content warning. But that isn't the case here, of course.

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                      @alexpsmith @benroyce

                      It's probably best, if you think a user violated your instance's rules, to report them rightaway without first politely warning them.

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                      • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                        @alexpsmith @benroyce

                        It's probably best, if you think a user violated your instance's rules, to report them rightaway without first politely warning them.

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                        @sibrosan @alexpsmith

                        but the issue here is content warnings

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                        • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                          @benroyce @msbellows @ignova @crow with that CW I expected some serious sh*t in your toot πŸ˜‚.

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                          @lordkhan @msbellows @ignova @crow

                          🀭

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @sibrosan @alexpsmith

                            and what right does anyone have to tell someone else how to CW

                            on the terms of gore or porn, yes

                            on the terms of extreme sensitivities no. that doesn't mean someone won't be harmed. it means it is absolutely impossible to abide by ridiculous standards

                            you may CW your own content as you like. on any rationale

                            you have zero right to enforce this on others

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                            @benroyce @sibrosan Seriously, I'm not putting a content warning on my fucking sandwich. Plenty of people do, and more power to 'em! I also don't think political views need to be hidden; that is the author's choice.

                            On the flip side, I see plenty of bullshit that other people post, but there's no way I'd be so arrogant and controlling that I'd tell another person that they have to hide something because I don't like it or because I disagree.

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                            • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                              @alexpsmith @benroyce

                              It's probably best, if you think a user violated your instance's rules, to report them rightaway without first politely warning them.

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                              @sibrosan @benroyce We're not talking about violating rules. That's a completely different topic.

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                              • jackgandy@mastodon.socialJ jackgandy@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce I would hope the fediverse of all places would encourage us to expose these atrocities.

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                                @jackgandy

                                i as well

                                thus i rant against the absurd CW gatekeeping

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                                • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                                  @benroyce @sibrosan Seriously, I'm not putting a content warning on my fucking sandwich. Plenty of people do, and more power to 'em! I also don't think political views need to be hidden; that is the author's choice.

                                  On the flip side, I see plenty of bullshit that other people post, but there's no way I'd be so arrogant and controlling that I'd tell another person that they have to hide something because I don't like it or because I disagree.

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                                  @alexpsmith @sibrosan

                                  βœ…

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @sibrosan @alexpsmith

                                    but the issue here is content warnings

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                                    @benroyce @alexpsmith

                                    Yes, if someone violates your instance's rules with respect to content warnings, it's probably best to report them rightaway without politely warning them about it.

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                                    • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce @alexpsmith

                                      Yes, if someone violates your instance's rules with respect to content warnings, it's probably best to report them rightaway without politely warning them about it.

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                                      @sibrosan @alexpsmith

                                      i don't think you understand what we're talking about here

                                      we're talking about people who have their own personal standards for CW, and attempt to gatekeep by demanding other people follow their personal standards and CW their post. even though the person not using a CW is not breaking any server rules

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                                      • alexpsmith@beige.partyA alexpsmith@beige.party

                                        @benroyce @sibrosan Seriously, I'm not putting a content warning on my fucking sandwich. Plenty of people do, and more power to 'em! I also don't think political views need to be hidden; that is the author's choice.

                                        On the flip side, I see plenty of bullshit that other people post, but there's no way I'd be so arrogant and controlling that I'd tell another person that they have to hide something because I don't like it or because I disagree.

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                                        @alexpsmith @benroyce My instance's rules say thay you need to put a CW on sexually explicit material. That might apply to an image of a fucking sandwich.

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                                        • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                          @alexpsmith @benroyce My instance's rules say thay you need to put a CW on sexually explicit material. That might apply to an image of a fucking sandwich.

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                                          @sibrosan @alexpsmith πŸ˜‚

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