Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

[pandacab@ni.hil.ist]

@woozle

I have to ask: what if there is nothing similar? This is what I mean by "not get the same thing".

I still have to try them but the alternatives I found (again, to be fair, I haven't tried yet) pumble, guilded, rocket.chat and mattermost.

@feorag @netskaven @verge

[woozle@toot.cat]

@PandaCab

Somewhere I typed up a list of my requirements (I can't speak for everyone); I'll have to dig that up..

Revolt does actually meet them all, afaict; the only obstacles are logistical/strategic.

I'm familiar(ish) with RocketChat and Mattermost, but was underwhelmed; I'll have to investigate the other two (thanks for the leads!).

@feorag @netskaven @verge

[kriom@framapiaf.org]

@verge Discord self-destructs

[intelgraphy@infosec.exchange]

@verge Wooow... I'd have to jump ship soon then.

[azninsect@kind.social]

@verge strange optics considering they got hacked and this data got leaked for their UK users

[hackillu@mas.to]

@verge What?! Why do they always want an ID? Why can't they tell people to go to the DMV for once? Can't they at least make the surveillance inconvenient?

[inchulk@mastodon.green]

@verge I rarely use Discord, and don't like it much, so no loss when I cancel my membership.

[darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io]

@verge

Discord can fuck off.

[tobu@fosstodon.org]

@gerenuk @verge
Hacks aside, DHS/ICE/other arms of a fascist state will be able to tie community membership to identities more easily, over time this can lead to China style control over dissenting speech.
But even before that happens, Project 2025 just wants to treat LGBTQ communities/topics as adult only. Without decentralised, easily self hosted, numerous alternatives to discord, these vulnerable groups get the double whammy of being doxxed and of rejecting younglings that need them.

[sheislaurence@mastodon.social]

@verge @Bellingcat what's going to happen to your community then?

[fuzz_ra@kind.social]

@verge

It's just as well I'd rather drink a pint of hot and chunky sick than use discord.

Putting useful stuff in a members-only corporate silo is the action of a thoughtless moron and I'm not going to join the lunacy.

Also, I really don't need yet another account for yet another thing I hate.

[fuzz_ra@kind.social]

@nqd @verge

I get what you're saying but the whole "normie" assumption tends to be what gets in the way. We've all seen the big posters on various Linux forums who should have been banned years ago because they're militantly unwilling to actually help.

Some of my favourite people are former clients who graduated from needing to buy my services to keep their PC running. I feel warmly smug about explaining what I was doing to them well.

[fuzz_ra@kind.social]

@ninafelwitch @verge

IRC and a small forum work pretty well, too. I mean, chatting alongside a stream is IRC in a trench coat.

[bmebenji@mstdn.social]

@verge It’s a shame that #Discord is going away. Oh well. I haven’t really been using it anyway

[woozle@toot.cat]

@PandaCab @feorag @netskaven @verge

Pumble looks to be proprietary, which is an immediate disqualifier.

[woozle@toot.cat]

@PandaCab @feorag @netskaven @verge

...and Guilded is no longer available (which shows one compelling reason why proprietary software is not an option).

[strawhousepig@mastodon.social]

@verge What is "full access"?

Shouldn't there be an age cap there instead? Like no one over 16?

[starkrg@myside-yourside.net]

@sayonaraminasan @verge It's been fine as a modern alternative to IRC with voice and video chat. Not amazing, but fine. It is absolutely *awful* for distribution of information and I do not understand why anyone would use it for that.

[sayonaraminasan@urusai.social]

@StarkRG discords garbage. Has been the whole time. Performs like shit, organized like shit, shit tier slop that’s now forcing users to upload their it’s gonna burn.

[starkrg@myside-yourside.net]

@sayonaraminasan Yeah, that definitely hasn't been my experience. It's worked better than zoom, for example, and has been more friendly than Facebook (which, I realise, isn't saying much, but it's a benchmark anyway). It's worked well enough that I didn't look for an alternative until about a year ago.

I'm not sure what you mean by being organised like shit, it's organised like a chat program. It's better than IRC in many ways, which is kind of the metric to measure chat programs against.