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As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men.

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  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @LevZadov
    Again, "Lev" fuck off

    I don't need nor desire your "forgiveness".
    I refer you back to point 1.

    Your voice, which now exceeds several foolscap pages of red-herring-do, amply illustrates why some men.., nay, men in general, should rather shut the fuck up and not offer their embarrassingly off-key opinions.

    Here is my gift to you, "Lev": shut up more

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    • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

      @screwturn Modern world. Archeology has been showing that women were warriors, etc.

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      @CStamp very few, very seldom, and vastly counterweighted by millenia of servitude and mistreatment

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      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

        As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men.

        Please boost this if you think it will help

        1. Your voice doesn't need to be heard. In fact, realizing that you don’t HAVE to have an opinion on everything and voice opinions or ideas in meetings or social gatherings, is amazingly liberating. You can actually just shut up, and relieve yourself of all that effort and stress. Let Bob utter his embarrassingly dumb idea, let Shirley have a say. You can just let it be for the most part

        lupus_blackfur@mastodon.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @screwturn
        @DaveMWilburn

        As my Dad used to say:

        "Better to keep your mouth shut and let folks think you might be an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

        😁

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        • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

          As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men.

          Please boost this if you think it will help

          1. Your voice doesn't need to be heard. In fact, realizing that you don’t HAVE to have an opinion on everything and voice opinions or ideas in meetings or social gatherings, is amazingly liberating. You can actually just shut up, and relieve yourself of all that effort and stress. Let Bob utter his embarrassingly dumb idea, let Shirley have a say. You can just let it be for the most part

          mynameistillian@plush.cityM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @screwturn 22-year old Gen Zer (somewhat a man? i am genderfluid) here. much thanks. lots of good stuff.

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          • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

            7. The "Alpha Male" schtick is a leaky bag of bullshit on stilts. There is no science behind this, it doesn't survive a scrutiny, and the guys who claim the title are always insecure, overcompensating, grifters. Allways.

            It is also obviously bullshit. You can't possibly be top dog in everything, and the more you are top dog in anything, the narrower that specialty will be, and the shorter the time before someone better comes along. All that trumpeting actually tells you he's an insecure numpty

            mike@thecanadian.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @screwturn Most real leaders don't say a goddam thing. They act a certain way and you instinctively follow. While the alpha male posers are barking, real leaders are getting stuff done usually by lifting people up around them.

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            • ggggbbybby@hachyderm.ioG ggggbbybby@hachyderm.io

              @LevZadov @screwturn this is an absurd thing to say. women have not, historically, have had control over their own reproductive capacity. that's a Very New Thing in terms of human society. Being pregnant for most of your life, not necessarily by choice, is a pretty fucking raw deal.

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              @ggggbbybby
              "Lev" wants to take a handfull of highly contested grave remains as evidence that in 300,000 years of modern humans, that FOR THE MOST PART, women have not generally had the suckier part of it.

              @LevZadov

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              • 3dbill@mstdn.ca3 3dbill@mstdn.ca

                @screwturn can't agree with you about sex, it's been one of the best things about my life, but everything else, yeah.

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                @3DBill @screwturn

                + 1 and same also for 'playing with oneself'

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                • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                  As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men.

                  Please boost this if you think it will help

                  1. Your voice doesn't need to be heard. In fact, realizing that you don’t HAVE to have an opinion on everything and voice opinions or ideas in meetings or social gatherings, is amazingly liberating. You can actually just shut up, and relieve yourself of all that effort and stress. Let Bob utter his embarrassingly dumb idea, let Shirley have a say. You can just let it be for the most part

                  alisonw@fedimon.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @screwturn
                  Nice thread. Hope they listen.
                  (69yo woman, 70 next Monday. WTF!)

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                  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                    11. On the whole, women have had a raw deal for the entire history of the species, and the reason you aren't getting as much physical attention or getting a great job or a nice house is not their fault. Be nice to women without expecting to be compensated for it. They have more than enough shit on their plate, so be understanding and helpful, and try not to get in the way or make things worse for them

                    Make more women friends, you might be surpised at how nice that is

                    Also, women aren't a prize

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                    12. Consider a great many patently foolish and ludicrously risky things. I'm not saying DO them, because that would mostly be foolish, but CONSIDER them. Consider joining the SAS, being a supermodel, driving a formula-1 racing car, competing in the Isle of Mann TT, being a Michelin Star chef. Think through what it would take, would be like, and what it would likely cost in blood and money

                    Explore them, deeply feel them, and for the most part, thank fuck you won't ever do them. Learn about you

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                      12. Consider a great many patently foolish and ludicrously risky things. I'm not saying DO them, because that would mostly be foolish, but CONSIDER them. Consider joining the SAS, being a supermodel, driving a formula-1 racing car, competing in the Isle of Mann TT, being a Michelin Star chef. Think through what it would take, would be like, and what it would likely cost in blood and money

                      Explore them, deeply feel them, and for the most part, thank fuck you won't ever do them. Learn about you

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                      #34

                      If you have enjoyed or found these useful, maybe consider reading my short stories or books, and consider leaving a review.

                      About half of my shorts are available for free at Physician's Weekly, my eBooks are on Kobo, and my paperbacks are orderable at most any bookseller. My novels are mostly about endearingly psychopathic girls.

                      First read the free chapters, though.

                      My fiction is as pithy, but has far more murder and amusingly fatal accidents

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                      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Lev, please

                        1. You don’t need to be heard. Rather shut up. (See link)
                        2. You clearly misunderstood what I wrote. Maybe lay off the sauce or change meds
                        3. You clearly misunderstood the scholarship on the (very contested) interpretation of (very rare) grave goods that (may) suggest that *some* women, in *some* cultures, were *sometimes* also *periodic* participants in warfare in the 300,000 or so years of modern humans.

                        Also

                        Fuck off, you blowhard

                        Humphrey Archer (@screwturn@mastodon.social)

                        As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men. Please boost this if you think it will help 1. Your voice doesn't need to be heard. In fact, realizing that you don’t HAVE to have an opinion on everything and voice opinions or ideas in meetings or social gatherings, is amazingly liberating. You can actually just shut up, and relieve yourself of all that effort and stress. Let Bob utter his embarrassingly dumb idea, let Shirley have a say. You can just let it be for the most part

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                        • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                          As an almost 70 year old man, I have some advice for young men.

                          Please boost this if you think it will help

                          1. Your voice doesn't need to be heard. In fact, realizing that you don’t HAVE to have an opinion on everything and voice opinions or ideas in meetings or social gatherings, is amazingly liberating. You can actually just shut up, and relieve yourself of all that effort and stress. Let Bob utter his embarrassingly dumb idea, let Shirley have a say. You can just let it be for the most part

                          becomethewaifu@tech.lgbtB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @screwturn Hell, back before I was visibly [gestures vaguely at current self], I actually struggled to convince my coworkers that I didn't have an opinion occasionally, which means that there's at least partially pressure from people expecting that behavior. Learn to override and shut down those toxic expectations before they take hold.

                          (There were a whole bunch of times where my coworkers didn't appear to understand that "Can't form a a reasonable opinion with the amount of information available" was even an option. Back when I first started, they were asking for my opinion on topics and systems I knew nothing about, and didn't seem to believe that I truly didn't have any due to that lack of information)

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                            @LevZadov

                            Please do, "Lev"
                            Go and be an excitable blowhard somewhere else.
                            Also, fuck off, you ninny

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                            • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                              12. Consider a great many patently foolish and ludicrously risky things. I'm not saying DO them, because that would mostly be foolish, but CONSIDER them. Consider joining the SAS, being a supermodel, driving a formula-1 racing car, competing in the Isle of Mann TT, being a Michelin Star chef. Think through what it would take, would be like, and what it would likely cost in blood and money

                              Explore them, deeply feel them, and for the most part, thank fuck you won't ever do them. Learn about you

                              lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @screwturn at nearing 77, yes to all of this

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                              • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                9. There are no exclusively "masculine" jobs or pastimes, and you will enjoy life far more if you give that whole story the middle finger.

                                If you like Barbie Dolls, cooking, or knitting, fucking go for it. Don't let some narrow-minded and insecure scold put you off your thing. Do your thing, mix with others who do thing, and help the less skilled do thing. If you sucked at thing but enjoyed it, master small slices of it, and show others how you did that and how you fuck up. You can be that guy

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                                @screwturn @janeishly My grandmother taught me to crochet. In the USA, these things are often done in rural areas during the looong Winters. If burly farmers can enjoy stitchwork, anyone can.

                                I used to carry my mother's old, unused purses around. They were perfect for carrying my toys and other small bits in, especially on vacations.

                                These things are all learned behaviors. What's the modern phrase? "Don't start no trouble; won't be no trouble." Teach your children better.

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                                  @LevZadov @screwturn buddy you are so far out of your depth it is comical.

                                  your "evidence" that some women had high status, because of the things they were buried with, is not proof that women have enjoyed universal equality throughout history. some women were queens, but it would be silly to conclude that all societies with queens were inherently egalitarian. you might as well might conclude that Margaret Thatcher's use of paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland is a prime example of "girl power" — women who rise to the top of patriarchal societies are usually anti-feminist and see themselves as the exception to the rules they think other women should live under.

                                  and before you go "but but but anarchists" anarchists aren't immune to sexism. there are so many anarchist groups that have fallen apart because men couldn't shut up and do the work. you don't know what you're talking about and you should sit down and listen instead of posting through it.

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                                  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                    3. Sex is far less important than the media, buddies, influencers, and society would have you believe. It's also a fucking time trap. Especially when you are young, your body and society scream at you to want to be in rut all the damn time. It's exhausting. It also steals time and energy from windsurfing, riding a motorcycle, making curry, and brewing beer - which are all more fun, cost less, and don't involve all the fuss and bother.

                                    Make friends with more women, just bc they are interesting

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                                    @screwturn im still comparatively a younger man and agree with the whole thread and want to add a corollary here: sex gets better later anyway and its not going anywhere

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