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  3. By now you've all probably heard about the latest shenanigans from Google and their love for in-browser AI features (if you don't, this is the story: https://www.theverge.com/tech/924933/google-chrome-4gb-gemini-nano-ai-features).

By now you've all probably heard about the latest shenanigans from Google and their love for in-browser AI features (if you don't, this is the story: https://www.theverge.com/tech/924933/google-chrome-4gb-gemini-nano-ai-features).

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  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

    By now you've all probably heard about the latest shenanigans from Google and their love for in-browser AI features (if you don't, this is the story: https://www.theverge.com/tech/924933/google-chrome-4gb-gemini-nano-ai-features).

    Our team has been inspecting the Chromium code and disabling stuff from the very first version of Vivaldi (we have some posts about this in our blog, such as https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-vivaldi/ or https://vivaldi.com/blog/no-google-vivaldi-users-will-not-get-floced/).

    We've also been very outspoken about our dislike of the built-in AI trend in the browser industry, but in case there's still any doubts: yes, we disable all Gemini-related features, and we've been doing it for a while.

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    @Vivaldi so this is why my 2014 laptop cries in pain when I start chromium

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    • rootbrian@mastodon.socialR rootbrian@mastodon.social

      @Vivaldi At least firefox is up-front about and gives you the option to outright disable it all at will.
      The only one thing I keep enabled, is the website translation - that's it (doesn't rely on google).

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      @rootbrian @Vivaldi

      You believe in the "killswitch"?! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        By now you've all probably heard about the latest shenanigans from Google and their love for in-browser AI features (if you don't, this is the story: https://www.theverge.com/tech/924933/google-chrome-4gb-gemini-nano-ai-features).

        Our team has been inspecting the Chromium code and disabling stuff from the very first version of Vivaldi (we have some posts about this in our blog, such as https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-vivaldi/ or https://vivaldi.com/blog/no-google-vivaldi-users-will-not-get-floced/).

        We've also been very outspoken about our dislike of the built-in AI trend in the browser industry, but in case there's still any doubts: yes, we disable all Gemini-related features, and we've been doing it for a while.

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        @Vivaldi And this is why Vivaldi is my browser of choice.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @AlexTheStampede

          That's crazy

          I understand like bigotry but I didn't think the mods had such a line on AI

          But I don't know. Maybe sealioning directly at Vivaldi crossed a line. The mods may react to big account complaints or just trolling such accounts on their own

          Really bizarre

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          @benroyce @AlexTheStampede FYI (I was curious.. I wonder if it was a one of his posts somewhere in this thread) https://bsky.app/profile/lazza.bsky.social/post/3ml77cpr7wk2g

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          • hadeur@metalhead.clubH hadeur@metalhead.club

            @benroyce @AlexTheStampede FYI (I was curious.. I wonder if it was a one of his posts somewhere in this thread) https://bsky.app/profile/lazza.bsky.social/post/3ml77cpr7wk2g

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            @Hadeur @AlexTheStampede

            interesting!

            now i'm really curious about what really happened

            i want to speculate but we can't see his history

            i wrote "I understand like bigotry but I didn't think the mods had such a line on AI"

            because the subject matter higher in the thread is not directly related to bigotry. but then it seems bigotry really is the issue!

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Hadeur @AlexTheStampede

              interesting!

              now i'm really curious about what really happened

              i want to speculate but we can't see his history

              i wrote "I understand like bigotry but I didn't think the mods had such a line on AI"

              because the subject matter higher in the thread is not directly related to bigotry. but then it seems bigotry really is the issue!

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              @benroyce @AlexTheStampede I glanced over his profile the other day and his posts looked fine to me.

              If it was about the post in this comment section (as far as i remember it fits his description), while it was an awkward comparison, it's a pretty stupid reason to ban him, in my view. That's also why I'm curious..

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              • hadeur@metalhead.clubH hadeur@metalhead.club

                @benroyce @AlexTheStampede I glanced over his profile the other day and his posts looked fine to me.

                If it was about the post in this comment section (as far as i remember it fits his description), while it was an awkward comparison, it's a pretty stupid reason to ban him, in my view. That's also why I'm curious..

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                @Hadeur @AlexTheStampede

                interesting. i have no recollection of a post here with "migrants and LGBT people" as lazza mentions. which makes sense, they blocked me. is the comment still in your cache?

                sometimes the mod team freezes an account and asks them to edit their comment. some do. some get angry and don't

                so not a ban per se

                it could be mod overreach. or it could be reasonable in this light (not a ban, just an ask to edit)

                but i don't know what they said so i can't say

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @Hadeur @AlexTheStampede

                  interesting. i have no recollection of a post here with "migrants and LGBT people" as lazza mentions. which makes sense, they blocked me. is the comment still in your cache?

                  sometimes the mod team freezes an account and asks them to edit their comment. some do. some get angry and don't

                  so not a ban per se

                  it could be mod overreach. or it could be reasonable in this light (not a ban, just an ask to edit)

                  but i don't know what they said so i can't say

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                  @benroyce @Hadeur oh wow, that’s… context! When I checked all I could see was harmless stuff, worst of it seeming just not being against AI. Then again, if something was there, it might’ve been deleted prior to the ban and I could’ve missed it.

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                  • alexthestampede@maly.ioA alexthestampede@maly.io

                    @benroyce @Hadeur oh wow, that’s… context! When I checked all I could see was harmless stuff, worst of it seeming just not being against AI. Then again, if something was there, it might’ve been deleted prior to the ban and I could’ve missed it.

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                    @AlexTheStampede @Hadeur

                    always some drama!

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                    • kimcrawley@zeroes.caK kimcrawley@zeroes.ca

                      @rootbrian @Vivaldi

                      You believe in the "killswitch"?! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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                      @kimcrawley @Vivaldi It's handy!

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                      • kyu3a@social.vivaldi.netK kyu3a@social.vivaldi.net

                        @thibaultmol @Vivaldi I agree. That’s why I use Startpage.com as my default search engine, but sometimes I just have to use Google. Whenever that happens, this AI summary pops up, and it always gets on my nerves. 😓

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                        @kyu3a
                        https://cyberinsider.com/startpage-system1-privacy-one-group/
                        @thibaultmol @Vivaldi

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