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  3. for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter"

for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter"

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  • dkesserich@mastodon.gamedev.placeD dkesserich@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @jplebreton if anything could make me believe that 'neuro-linguistic programming' is actually real it's the way that becoming a billionaire or apparently spending any significant amount of time rubbing elbows with billionaires turns otherwise intelligent peoples' brains into useless mush.

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    @DKesserich the "magic" is out there in society, in the incentive structures, the leylines of capital and power and influence.

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    • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

      for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
      he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
      increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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      @jplebreton i admired this guy so much. he was part of making some things that were really beautiful, maybe more beautiful than most of the people making them really understood. anyway, fuck him. what a piece of shit.

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      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

        for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
        he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
        increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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        if you see no value in having humanity or empathy or intellectual breadth, "being a powerful programmer" will just lead you to pour your talents down a hole, each decade more lost than the last. you'll pick bad collaborators and bad goals, you'll tolerate utter mediocrity outside your incredibly narrow notions of excellence, and ultimately you may just end up serving evil.

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        • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

          if you see no value in having humanity or empathy or intellectual breadth, "being a powerful programmer" will just lead you to pour your talents down a hole, each decade more lost than the last. you'll pick bad collaborators and bad goals, you'll tolerate utter mediocrity outside your incredibly narrow notions of excellence, and ultimately you may just end up serving evil.

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          i really have no idea where his Atari stuff is headed, it might ultimately yield something interesting. but everything else about his work these days is so directionally rotten that i'm just assuming it'll go into missile guidance systems, concentration camp efficiency, etc.

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          • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

            i really have no idea where his Atari stuff is headed, it might ultimately yield something interesting. but everything else about his work these days is so directionally rotten that i'm just assuming it'll go into missile guidance systems, concentration camp efficiency, etc.

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            @jplebreton I stopped tracking Carmack when he went to Oculus. This update sounds exactly like where I expected him to go.

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            • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

              @jplebreton I stopped tracking Carmack when he went to Oculus. This update sounds exactly like where I expected him to go.

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              @randomgeek @jplebreton

              there was one red flag that made me reconsider his human side/moral backbone:
              in the days of Quake-1, ID collaborated with Rendition to define what the hardware should look like; that's when
              he did a 180*:

              <<... Quake is not going to do Z-buffering.” ... And then halfway through Quake I said, “Well I changed my mind. We are using Z-buffering...>>

              Rendition V1100 not having (performant) z-buffering contributed to the company failure.

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              • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @jplebreton This is particularly distressing to me. I rather liked both of them, personally. I guess people change.

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                @TomF @jplebreton big sigh.

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                • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                  for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                  he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                  increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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                  @jplebreton here goes another idol. Thanks for sharing for those of us who aren't on Twitter anymore.

                  I'm starting to believe modesty is the greatest virtue in a man. As soon as a guy goes "why, I am actually smarter than everyone else", this happens ^.

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                  • isagalaev@mastodon.socialI isagalaev@mastodon.social

                    @jplebreton here goes another idol. Thanks for sharing for those of us who aren't on Twitter anymore.

                    I'm starting to believe modesty is the greatest virtue in a man. As soon as a guy goes "why, I am actually smarter than everyone else", this happens ^.

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                    @isagalaev on one level i don't think the problem is with his faculties of self-assessment at all, i think he's still probably relatively humble and self-critical. on another, yeah he believes in the bell curve and that inequality is natural and fine, and with that comes the deep glaring inhumane vanity of the 20something millionaire. his axioms about humanity and society are so flawed it invalidates practically every well-formed thought that's ever come into his head.

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                    • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                      for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                      he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                      increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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                      @jplebreton not unexpected. Every talk by him is/was choke full of arrogance and ignorance. As a VR veteran i could even attest him scientific misunderstanding. I don’t get why people worship him.

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                      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                        if you see no value in having humanity or empathy or intellectual breadth, "being a powerful programmer" will just lead you to pour your talents down a hole, each decade more lost than the last. you'll pick bad collaborators and bad goals, you'll tolerate utter mediocrity outside your incredibly narrow notions of excellence, and ultimately you may just end up serving evil.

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                        @jplebreton to be fair he was highly sceptical of the metaverse thing. But otherwise I fully agree. Very sad to see his trajectory.

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                        • groleo@mathstodon.xyzG groleo@mathstodon.xyz

                          @randomgeek @jplebreton

                          there was one red flag that made me reconsider his human side/moral backbone:
                          in the days of Quake-1, ID collaborated with Rendition to define what the hardware should look like; that's when
                          he did a 180*:

                          <<... Quake is not going to do Z-buffering.” ... And then halfway through Quake I said, “Well I changed my mind. We are using Z-buffering...>>

                          Rendition V1100 not having (performant) z-buffering contributed to the company failure.

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                          @Groleo @randomgeek @jplebreton I don’t know. No one knew how to do 3d the “right way”. Let alone hw 3d accelerators for consumers. It seems only natural to change your mind in a field that was constantly changing.

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                          • pythno@mastodon.gamedev.placeP pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @Groleo @randomgeek @jplebreton I don’t know. No one knew how to do 3d the “right way”. Let alone hw 3d accelerators for consumers. It seems only natural to change your mind in a field that was constantly changing.

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                            @pythno @randomgeek @jplebreton
                            my point was to have the guts to say "i'm not totally sure about this".
                            instead, as seen over and over, it was: oh, this is the sh*t

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                            • retrakker@mastodon.socialR retrakker@mastodon.social

                              @jplebreton not unexpected. Every talk by him is/was choke full of arrogance and ignorance. As a VR veteran i could even attest him scientific misunderstanding. I don’t get why people worship him.

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                              @retrakker @jplebreton He was a legend in the days of early 3D graphics, up until the days of MegaTexture (Clipmapping) tech in idTech4. This is specially distressing for me because he also had a hacker spirit: he released the source of his games when they were on top, and while nobody else was doing it, because he believed in free information and source was an extension of it.

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                              • doragasu@mastodon.sdf.orgD doragasu@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @retrakker @jplebreton He was a legend in the days of early 3D graphics, up until the days of MegaTexture (Clipmapping) tech in idTech4. This is specially distressing for me because he also had a hacker spirit: he released the source of his games when they were on top, and while nobody else was doing it, because he believed in free information and source was an extension of it.

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                                @doragasu @jplebreton sure about his technical wizardry early in his career. However, I wouldn't take OSS as a hint towards somebody with positive traits. Its just code. And examples for OSS advocates gone rogue are amass. In my book he would be a legend if he would have actively passed things on and built a open community around him welcoming everybody. Just dropping off some code is not enough in my book.

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                                • retrakker@mastodon.socialR retrakker@mastodon.social

                                  @doragasu @jplebreton sure about his technical wizardry early in his career. However, I wouldn't take OSS as a hint towards somebody with positive traits. Its just code. And examples for OSS advocates gone rogue are amass. In my book he would be a legend if he would have actively passed things on and built a open community around him welcoming everybody. Just dropping off some code is not enough in my book.

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                                  @retrakker @jplebreton It was not "dropping off some code". It was releasing the sources for the most advanced and best performing 3D gaming engines of their time. It's unfortunate money corrupted him to descend into "moral disorientation" as the OP says, but if you read books like "Masters of Doom", it is for me clear his hacker spirit was there back in the day, he was the kind of person that just wanted to do cool things with computers.

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                                  • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @TomF @jplebreton big sigh.

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                                    @lritter @TomF @jplebreton From what I gather there is nothing particularly interesting about his AI research either. I think when people become too rich or too much of a celebrity it's very easy for them to get surrounded by sycophants and assholes. That'll change a person. It's sad to realize the person you liked so much might no longer be around.

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                                    • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM mirth@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      @lritter @TomF @jplebreton From what I gather there is nothing particularly interesting about his AI research either. I think when people become too rich or too much of a celebrity it's very easy for them to get surrounded by sycophants and assholes. That'll change a person. It's sad to realize the person you liked so much might no longer be around.

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                                      @mirth @TomF @jplebreton i always keep a mouse door open in case he trips and wakes up. you never know.

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                                      • bitinn@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitinn@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @jplebreton the world needs to show me a man who hasn't been corrupted by massive amount of money.

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                                        @bitinn @jplebreton José ‘Pepe’ Mujica

                                        ?

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                                          @vampiress @jplebreton I agree. I stopped having heroes a long, long time ago. There are still people I admire, of course. The distinction, I think, between having a hero and admiring someone is whether or not it becomes an attack on one's own identity to realize that the person in question is flawed (perhaps irredeemably so). It's painful to lose a hero.

                                          I admired Noam Chomsky for many years. Then I found out that he not only remained friends with Epstein, but also advised him and thought he was a "victim of the press" after it became public knowledge that Epstein was a serial rapist. Someone with so spectacularly bad moral judgment is not a person I can admire, so I stopped admiring him. This wasn't painful at all.

                                          (There are few people left in the tech / software sphere I admire.)

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