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  • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

    I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

    Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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    @randulo AI dates back to Clippy.

    Gen-AI is what I think you're talking about.

    Gen-AI powered is a problem.

    Gen-AI assisted is different.

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    • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

      I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

      Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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      @randulo @liztai for me it’s strong negative if the lead is “AI!” rather than real benefits to me, especially if they pull a Copilot and raise prices.

      As a contrast, I use the Newsblur feed reader which recently launched a feature that uses LLMs to synthesize feeds from sites which don’t have them. The ethical/copyright/externality questions aren’t erased but that’s at least a feature real people have requested for years, not some PM trying to show they shipped AI on their promotion package.

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      • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

        @randulo Well, I'll tell you one thing, posting this on Mastodon is going to give you pretty overwhelming votes on the negative side. It would be interesting to see a more general populace vote, but my suspicion is that negative would still win by majority. My bet is still by quite a lot.

        As far as I can tell, those at the top are just wildly disconnected in every single possible way to literally everything below them. Including the systems they're actually forcing all this into...

        Some, I suspect, don't even know what their own business actually is or does...

        As a side note, it has struck me on more than one occasion that if there is any position in a business that could be replaced by a LLM without causing massive problems, it's the way overpaid jobs of those at the top...

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        @nazokiyoubinbou is there any social media that is even remotely neutral about AI? Yes but it exists in China 😆 @randulo

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        • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

          I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

          Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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          @randulo "AI-powered" is neither a positive nor a negative thing; it's an empty placeholder for signalling "we're not behind the times". If this was meant to inform a consumer about the actual technology being used, they wouldn't be using such a broad concept (which would be equivalent to calling Tokyo "Asia"). AI has been used for a long time in a variety of cases under different names, but nobody was hearing about it. Now that LLMs have become all the rage and are talked about everywhere as "AI", companies are taking this as an opportunity to show relevancy. The sentiment being elicited depends on the individual's relation to the concept of "being/staying ahead" or immortality projects in general. However, it's not the same as the question of using AI (again, mostly LLMs or VLMs). Since I'm not aware about your goal with this survey, I can't really comment on what question would be more suitable to receive more accurate results, but I'm afraid that the range of interpretation for your current one is too broad to get a representative answer.

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          • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

            I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

            Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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            @randulo hey @tagirijus is this the bubble you're talking about? 😂

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            • zebulonmysterioso@mas.toZ zebulonmysterioso@mas.to

              @randulo But what are these very good use cases?

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              @zebulonmysterioso @randulo

              What is the word that means [describe situation]? LLMs are useful as an interactive thesaurus.

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              • zebulonmysterioso@mas.toZ zebulonmysterioso@mas.to

                @randulo But what are these very good use cases?

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                @zebulonmysterioso @randulo If you write code, fact is today's coding AIs are great. If you explained what you can do with them in 2026 to someone to 2016, they would just laugh in disbelief.

                If you don't write code, well, naturally this is hard to feel. But that's why there are two different camps about it.

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                  @jimbob Well, most marketspeak is either a lie or an exageration, right? But the use of the term shouldn't be considered a GoodThing™ in your ads. 😂

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                    @jimbob To the person who replied Get a fucking grip, I say, that's not respectful disagreement.

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                    • hostia@defcon.socialH hostia@defcon.social

                      @randulo "AI-powered" is neither a positive nor a negative thing; it's an empty placeholder for signalling "we're not behind the times". If this was meant to inform a consumer about the actual technology being used, they wouldn't be using such a broad concept (which would be equivalent to calling Tokyo "Asia"). AI has been used for a long time in a variety of cases under different names, but nobody was hearing about it. Now that LLMs have become all the rage and are talked about everywhere as "AI", companies are taking this as an opportunity to show relevancy. The sentiment being elicited depends on the individual's relation to the concept of "being/staying ahead" or immortality projects in general. However, it's not the same as the question of using AI (again, mostly LLMs or VLMs). Since I'm not aware about your goal with this survey, I can't really comment on what question would be more suitable to receive more accurate results, but I'm afraid that the range of interpretation for your current one is too broad to get a representative answer.

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                      @hostia I agree, as someone else posts, the term is bogus to begin with, as if blockchain-powered meant something, even then the blockchain may have been used in the profuct.

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                      • chad@mstdn.caC chad@mstdn.ca

                        @randulo AI dates back to Clippy.

                        Gen-AI is what I think you're talking about.

                        Gen-AI powered is a problem.

                        Gen-AI assisted is different.

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                        @chad I protest the use of the I in AI, as it is not intelligent in any definition I know of. But here, it's just another adjective, and I think a mistake to "brag" about it.

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                        • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                          @randulo Well, I'll tell you one thing, posting this on Mastodon is going to give you pretty overwhelming votes on the negative side. It would be interesting to see a more general populace vote, but my suspicion is that negative would still win by majority. My bet is still by quite a lot.

                          As far as I can tell, those at the top are just wildly disconnected in every single possible way to literally everything below them. Including the systems they're actually forcing all this into...

                          Some, I suspect, don't even know what their own business actually is or does...

                          As a side note, it has struck me on more than one occasion that if there is any position in a business that could be replaced by a LLM without causing massive problems, it's the way overpaid jobs of those at the top...

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                          @nazokiyoubinbou 💯

                          The general public think all chatbots are ChatGPT and have no notion of LLM or "AI", so yes.

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                          • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                            @randulo @liztai for me it’s strong negative if the lead is “AI!” rather than real benefits to me, especially if they pull a Copilot and raise prices.

                            As a contrast, I use the Newsblur feed reader which recently launched a feature that uses LLMs to synthesize feeds from sites which don’t have them. The ethical/copyright/externality questions aren’t erased but that’s at least a feature real people have requested for years, not some PM trying to show they shipped AI on their promotion package.

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                            @acdha @liztai Good point, too that using an LLM isn't actually "powering "it, but the tool is used and for a good purpose, I think.

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                            • zebulonmysterioso@mas.toZ zebulonmysterioso@mas.to

                              @randulo But what are these very good use cases?

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                              @zebulonmysterioso One is what Google translate has been doing forever (before we were saturated with AI and LLM terms).

                              I have been collaborating with a Brazilian musician for several years. We share no language. We comminicate via Gmail, which automatically translates the messages, passing them betwen English and Brazilian Portugese.

                              Asking for explanations of some things is also a good use. Of course you have to check for accuracy.

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                              • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                @zebulonmysterioso @randulo

                                "Firing some people in order to increase investor dividends"

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                                @androcat @zebulonmysterioso Sad, but also true.

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                                • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

                                  I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

                                  Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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                                  Funny thing, no average non-technical person probably even heard of AJAX and CSS, but these revolutionized the web, tho not always for the best.

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                                  • holzchopf@toot.communityH holzchopf@toot.community

                                    @randulo hey @tagirijus is this the bubble you're talking about? 😂

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                                    @holzchopf @tagirijus In the sense that it will eventually disappear as did "with Blockchain", one could probably say "bubble", if that's what you mean?

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                                    • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                                      @randulo Well, I'll tell you one thing, posting this on Mastodon is going to give you pretty overwhelming votes on the negative side. It would be interesting to see a more general populace vote, but my suspicion is that negative would still win by majority. My bet is still by quite a lot.

                                      As far as I can tell, those at the top are just wildly disconnected in every single possible way to literally everything below them. Including the systems they're actually forcing all this into...

                                      Some, I suspect, don't even know what their own business actually is or does...

                                      As a side note, it has struck me on more than one occasion that if there is any position in a business that could be replaced by a LLM without causing massive problems, it's the way overpaid jobs of those at the top...

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                                      @nazokiyoubinbou Yes, I realize that. My question isn't "do you hate (or like) AI", but what do you think of the use of "AI-powered" as a flex, a quality? I think you're right, that investors will be impressed, but that a lot of potential users will dislike it, even if the product is just what they need. (The "powered" claim is meaningless, regardless.

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                                      • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

                                        I'm in no way an AI hater. It has some very good use cases. But in the commercial world, if you are promoting a product or service, the phrase "AI-powered" translates to "didn't read the room". The majority probably don't see that as a plus? (I could be wrong!)

                                        Boost if you will to get coverage. The results will be interesting if enough people vote.

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                                        @randulo

                                        In the 50s through 70s they used to put the word "Sugar" in front of the names of breakfast cereals (to which a huge amount of crystalline sugar had been added) and it really helped them sell better. Until people finally realized how undesirable that really was and it started having the opposite effect.

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                                        • pieist@ohai.socialP pieist@ohai.social

                                          @randulo

                                          In the 50s through 70s they used to put the word "Sugar" in front of the names of breakfast cereals (to which a huge amount of crystalline sugar had been added) and it really helped them sell better. Until people finally realized how undesirable that really was and it started having the opposite effect.

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                                          @pieist I think I do recall that! Sugar Snaps! No, SMACKS!

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