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If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

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  • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

    @benroyce

    Did he really complain? I'd rather call it rational pessimism, which may not be worse than naive optimism.

    @welkin7

    "How the heck did the world get so screwed?"

    We let power concentrate... again. We remained silent when we should have spoken out. We all shaped this world by our individual choices.

    @randahl

    The first and most important factor to civil disobedience are large numbers. Only if we are many, we will prevail.

    The faster we unite, the easier it will be.

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    @Amorpheus @welkin7 @randahl

    I am not championing airhead optimism

    But no, I disagree, I saw airhead pessimism

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

      Let's do this!

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      @randahl halleluja brother!

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @Amorpheus @welkin7 @randahl

        I am not championing airhead optimism

        But no, I disagree, I saw airhead pessimism

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        #50

        @benroyce I saw both. I conceive both strategies as a conservation of individual sanity, which is a general human affliction. I prefer not to not judge over individual inner conflicts. Life is quite difficult to get a sense of. Was and is for me at least.

        All I am interested in is a realistic strategy on how to shape the world so we all are able to live more and suffer less.

        You must remember that no one lives a life free from pain and suffering. (Sophocles)

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        • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

          @benroyce I saw both. I conceive both strategies as a conservation of individual sanity, which is a general human affliction. I prefer not to not judge over individual inner conflicts. Life is quite difficult to get a sense of. Was and is for me at least.

          All I am interested in is a realistic strategy on how to shape the world so we all are able to live more and suffer less.

          You must remember that no one lives a life free from pain and suffering. (Sophocles)

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          @Amorpheus

          I will judge them

          We're drowning in cowardly spineless cynicism

          I fucking despise cynics

          Useless fucking whiners

          The realistic strategy you seek includes telling these pathetic assholes to shut the fuck up

          They have some issues in their lives? Ok. Understandable. How does that give them the right to run their whiny fucking mouths on our serious world problems

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @Amorpheus

            I will judge them

            We're drowning in cowardly spineless cynicism

            I fucking despise cynics

            Useless fucking whiners

            The realistic strategy you seek includes telling these pathetic assholes to shut the fuck up

            They have some issues in their lives? Ok. Understandable. How does that give them the right to run their whiny fucking mouths on our serious world problems

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            @benroyce I deeply commiserate with your anger and the thrive that arises with it. As for many, your motivation is justified. Yet we need to join forces, not divide over inner conflicts.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

              Let's do this!

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              @randahl I am hoping that the Hungarians will vote him out, I have a memory of our (Luxembourgish) Premier, Juncker in the '90's on meeting him in Brussels, rubbing Orban's head and calling him "our wannabe dictator". As far as I can follow, Putin has lost, and it is beginning to crumble in Russia too, we can learn a lot from the Ukrainians. I have a deep respect for their will and learning power. Let us hope the US rights the situation with votes from more people (also keeping the ballots safe)

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              • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                @benroyce I deeply commiserate with your anger and the thrive that arises with it. As for many, your motivation is justified. Yet we need to join forces, not divide over inner conflicts.

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                #54

                @Amorpheus and likewise, that is a noble sentiment. except for the unfortunate detail that all cynics do is whine. there is no force to join because they don't represent a force. they need to be kicked in the ass to make them into a force

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

                  Let's do this!

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                  @randahl Would be a nice change from the crap that's been going on for like a decade plus at this point.

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                  • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                    @randahl I am hoping that the Hungarians will vote him out, I have a memory of our (Luxembourgish) Premier, Juncker in the '90's on meeting him in Brussels, rubbing Orban's head and calling him "our wannabe dictator". As far as I can follow, Putin has lost, and it is beginning to crumble in Russia too, we can learn a lot from the Ukrainians. I have a deep respect for their will and learning power. Let us hope the US rights the situation with votes from more people (also keeping the ballots safe)

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                    @connynasch @randahl The slap I know about was in 2015. We hadn't been members of the EU in the 90s and Orbán wasn't showing dictatorical tendencies until like the end of it. (and even then that's mostly "hindsight 20/20" stuff).

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                    • myremzi48@mastodon.socialM myremzi48@mastodon.social

                      @randahl @muod No .

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                      @MyRemzi48 @randahl @muod Well if anything he's not young and one can never know if another uprising doesn't happen until then.

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                      • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                        @connynasch @randahl The slap I know about was in 2015. We hadn't been members of the EU in the 90s and Orbán wasn't showing dictatorical tendencies until like the end of it. (and even then that's mostly "hindsight 20/20" stuff).

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                        @phl @randahl Oh dear - after my last stroke my memory is a little questionable... Thank you for the clarification 🤔 😁

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                        • enea90@mastodon.socialE enea90@mastodon.social

                          @randahl And one more to consider: Big Tech social media platforms have lost their user base.

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                          @Enea90 @randahl
                          Fingers crossed!
                          But erm... stop calling them social! They are quasi-social at best, unlike the actually social media platforms one finds in the fediverse.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

                            Let's do this!

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                            @randahl
                            What is your plan?

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                            • enea90@mastodon.socialE enea90@mastodon.social

                              @randahl And one more to consider: Big Tech social media platforms have lost their user base.

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                              @Enea90 @randahl
                              Indeed, Randahl, please consider! Don't you think your viewers like you enough to follow you to PeerTube?

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

                                Let's do this!

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                                @randahl i would be totally for it

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @Amorpheus and likewise, that is a noble sentiment. except for the unfortunate detail that all cynics do is whine. there is no force to join because they don't represent a force. they need to be kicked in the ass to make them into a force

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                                  @benroyce If I were to use any force on the ones I love, only for their desperation and hopelessness as they choose their own path according to their perception, I'd hate myself.

                                  Please forgive me, I might be delusional.

                                  I still believe that the pen is mightier than the sword.

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                                  • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                                    @benroyce If I were to use any force on the ones I love, only for their desperation and hopelessness as they choose their own path according to their perception, I'd hate myself.

                                    Please forgive me, I might be delusional.

                                    I still believe that the pen is mightier than the sword.

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                                    @Amorpheus

                                    if you kicked your children in the ass, you would be a monster

                                    if your significant other had no fight for you, themselves, both of you together. and they merely whined and whimpered as things drifted worse. and you stayed by their side meekly without pushing back. you would be a fool in toxic codependency with ineffectual impotence

                                    cynicism is acceptance

                                    pessimism is weakness

                                    treat adults like adults

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                                    • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                                      @phl @randahl Oh dear - after my last stroke my memory is a little questionable... Thank you for the clarification 🤔 😁

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                                      @connynasch @phl @randahl Is it this ??

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        If everything goes right, by the end of 2026, Trump has lost America, Orbán has lost Hungary, and Putin has lost Ukraine.

                                        Let's do this!

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                                        @randahl After ruZZia is thrown outta Ukraine, it will be interesting, how fast pooty is thrown on the dung heap.
                                        picture: pooty in Dresden 2006.

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                                        • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                                          @phl @randahl Oh dear - after my last stroke my memory is a little questionable... Thank you for the clarification 🤔 😁

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                                          @connynasch @randahl 2020 was terribly long for all of us 😄

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