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I wrote about AI again.

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  • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io
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    I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

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    AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

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    Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

    Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

    The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

    Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

    wakame@tech.lgbtW jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ blakecoverett@hachyderm.ioB mfierst@mstdn.socialM mdreid@mastodon.socialM 9 Replies Last reply
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    • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

      I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

      Link Preview Image
      What is a token

      AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

      favicon

      Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

      Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

      The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

      Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

      wakame@tech.lgbtW This user is from outside of this forum
      wakame@tech.lgbtW This user is from outside of this forum
      wakame@tech.lgbt
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      @jenniferplusplus
      Sometimes, when the world has gone crazy, we have to look in the mirror hard, do some mental sanity checks and then say to ourselves: Yes, still sane.

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      • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

        I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

        Link Preview Image
        What is a token

        AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

        favicon

        Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

        Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

        The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

        Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

        jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jpaulgibson@mastodon.ie
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        @jenniferplusplus thanks for sharing this. i have added it to the reading list for software engineering students that i teach. there are many things i like in the article - 2 of the highlights (for me) were your observations about (i paraphrase and apologise if i misrepresent what you wrote) « making easy things easier and hard things harder», and « verification can be more difficult than doing the work yourself »… as a teacher, generative AI is a major challenge to the way i teach.

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        • jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ jpaulgibson@mastodon.ie

          @jenniferplusplus thanks for sharing this. i have added it to the reading list for software engineering students that i teach. there are many things i like in the article - 2 of the highlights (for me) were your observations about (i paraphrase and apologise if i misrepresent what you wrote) « making easy things easier and hard things harder», and « verification can be more difficult than doing the work yourself »… as a teacher, generative AI is a major challenge to the way i teach.

          jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jpaulgibson that's awesome! I hope they get something out of it

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          • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

            @jpaulgibson that's awesome! I hope they get something out of it

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            @jenniferplusplus im sure they will…

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            • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

              I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

              Link Preview Image
              What is a token

              AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

              favicon

              Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

              Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

              The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

              Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

              blakecoverett@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jenniferplusplus Great stuff. Thank you.

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              • jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ jpaulgibson@mastodon.ie

                @jenniferplusplus im sure they will…

                jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jpaulgibson actually if you liked the passing comment on making hard things harder, then you'll probably like this one even more
                https://jenniferplusplus.com/losing-the-imitation-game/

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                • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                  @jpaulgibson actually if you liked the passing comment on making hard things harder, then you'll probably like this one even more
                  https://jenniferplusplus.com/losing-the-imitation-game/

                  jpaulgibson@mastodon.ieJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jenniferplusplus thanks - some nice reading for my coffee break between meetings this morning

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                  • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                    I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

                    Link Preview Image
                    What is a token

                    AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                    favicon

                    Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                    Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                    The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                    Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

                    mfierst@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mfierst@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mfierst@mstdn.social
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                    @jenniferplusplus
                    Sigh.
                    I wish there was a way to communicate these concepts to people that refuse to concentrate on thinking for longer than 30 seconds.

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                    • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                      I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

                      Link Preview Image
                      What is a token

                      AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                      favicon

                      Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                      Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                      The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                      Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

                      mdreid@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jenniferplusplus @eniko This is a really great overview. I’ll definitely show people this if they want to understand the nuts and bolts of what a transformer-based system is.

                      What is still a little “magical” to me having programmed for 40 years and worked in ML for 25 is how even small working programs can be generated from repeated token prediction, precisely for the reasons you gave (ie, correctness isn’t explicitly modelled and they model non-coding language too).

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                      • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                        I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

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                        What is a token

                        AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                        favicon

                        Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                        Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                        The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                        Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

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                        @jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io This is one of the most comprehensible write ups about this I've seen so far. Thank you for making the effort and sharing it.
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                        • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                          I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

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                          What is a token

                          AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                          favicon

                          Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                          Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                          The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                          Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

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                          @jenniferplusplus great article. Easy read. I think that I will recommend this as the next level explanation for people who are partially persuaded by my argument that LLMs are, effectively, glorified phone keyboard autocompletes that make the same sorts of errors, but amplified.

                          Your article goes a long way to explain why, to people who are starting to want to understand what they are exposing themselves to.

                          I loved the comment "It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile."

                          And, yeah, the tooling in IDEs can be incredibly useful, but that is very different from de novo generation of entire classes and systems.

                          Bravo!

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                          • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                            I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

                            Link Preview Image
                            What is a token

                            AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                            favicon

                            Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                            Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                            The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                            Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

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                            @jenniferplusplus this is great: i come from a different area of engineering but we were always drilled with check your data -> run the model -> check the model -> interpret your output and a big part of that is to know what the hell the model is doing with your input data. I'm convinced most AI boosters don't understand what their model does, beyond "magic" or "thinking like a human brain". In this case it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but it sure aint a duck.

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                            • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                              I wrote about AI again. On some level I don't now why I do this to myself

                              Link Preview Image
                              What is a token

                              AI is meant to seem like magic. But there's no such thing as magic. It's all illusion. So, allow me to spoil that illusion for you.

                              favicon

                              Jennifer++ (jenniferplusplus.com)

                              Actually, I wrote most of it months ago, for work. But, it was well received, so I put it on my blog. This is the more generic version.

                              The short version is that AI is not magic. It's a real phenomenon with real behavior and tradeoffs. I'm deeply tired of *****ALL***** the tradeoffs being handwaved away. And so much imagination fills in for the actual behavior. So I tried to describe how it's built, because that informs how it works, which informs what it actually does. And to be clear, it does things. It's not useless. But that's not the same as being useful, or worthwhile.

                              Anyway, I already put ~4k words on this in the article, so I'll shut up and let it speak for itself.

                              royalrex@mastodon.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jenniferplusplus fantastic read. Thank you for putting it together.

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