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  3. Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

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  • adron@metalhead.clubA adron@metalhead.club

    @augieray I generally agree with this type of tax. But I'm always curious, how do we propose that he pay it?

    Would he need to be forced to sell Tesla shares to pay it out in cash? None of these uber rich dudes tend to have any actual assets to tax, just these arbitrarily made up valuations.

    Thoughts?

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    @adron Yes, if a wealth person needed to sell some stock to pay their taxes, then that's hardly a penalty.

    And valuations aren't arbitrary. If public company stock is worth what the market will pay, and private companies can raise cash at enormous valuations, then the value is there, and not at all arbitrary.

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    • adron@metalhead.clubA adron@metalhead.club

      @augieray I generally agree with this type of tax. But I'm always curious, how do we propose that he pay it?

      Would he need to be forced to sell Tesla shares to pay it out in cash? None of these uber rich dudes tend to have any actual assets to tax, just these arbitrarily made up valuations.

      Thoughts?

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      @adron @augieray why would anyone propose how anyone pays their taxes? Is this a question that arises in any other context?

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      • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

        Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

        If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

        To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

        A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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        @augieray unfortunate work/worth typo there!

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        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

          Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

          If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

          To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

          A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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          @Augie Ray Under Roman emperors it was not unusual to get extra funding by declaring extremely wealthy people enemies of the state...

          They would then be executed and their money seized.

          Maybe worth considering... 🤔
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          • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

            Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

            If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

            To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

            A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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            @augieray taxing the wealth of the worthless, is the surest way to pop the ballooned US stock market...
            Where do we sign ?

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            • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

              Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

              If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

              To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

              A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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              @augieray

              And this used to be my position.

              Now I want to take $669.5 billion from him the first year.

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              • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                @augieray unfortunate work/worth typo there!

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                @noodlemaz Oops, correcting. Thanks.

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                • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                  Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

                  If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

                  To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

                  A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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                  @augieray

                  and he wouldn't even notice the money, whereas all of us in the bottom 50% of earners would very much benefit from keeping more of our small incomes to spend in our own communities instead of going to corrupt GOPs diverting everything we earn into private pockets like SpaceX

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                  • adron@metalhead.clubA adron@metalhead.club

                    @augieray I generally agree with this type of tax. But I'm always curious, how do we propose that he pay it?

                    Would he need to be forced to sell Tesla shares to pay it out in cash? None of these uber rich dudes tend to have any actual assets to tax, just these arbitrarily made up valuations.

                    Thoughts?

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                    @adron @augieray

                    i don't see the difficulty, i propose that he either pay the tax assessed or go to federal prison until he does feel moved to pay it

                    you do know that regular people have their money taken right out of their bank accounts if they owe taxes? and if they try to evade taxes, they are jailed?

                    why is Elon deserving of more rights than us?

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                    • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                      Elon Musk's net work is at least $670 billion.

                      If we implemented a 1% wealth tax, the US would collect $6.7 billion from this one man alone. Elon would still be the wealthiest person in the world.

                      To put that into perspective, the bottom 50% of wage earners in the US pay $63 billion in federal taxes.

                      A 1% wealth tax on this one individual would support the US government as much as the taxes collected from 8 million modest earners.

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                      @augieray I think we should implement a 99% wealth tax. He’d still be plenty rich enough

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