To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever.
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Companies know the ad market is dying and never worked well in the first place. Maybe they hope having all your data will make it better. But they know there's always a buyer of last resort willing to pay a premium for your personal information: the government.
Who needs a warrant?
@gwynnion Imo watching the way private industry is headed with increasingly two-tiered service in every industry I think they're expecting the value of the proletariat to be reduced solely to data, because the lower 60-80% won't have anything at all to spend.
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@gwynnion And your local device won't have ram or storage, it will all exist in the cloud, constantly monitored by machines, analysed by flawed algorithms, and used to judge you… and you will pay for it with your mandatory subscription fee which only gives you access to pre-approved & "appropriate" good apps and good data and a new advert every 20 seconds
@DLC @gwynnion, there has to be some RAM and some local storage. Without RAM, how would data be buffered for sending or for processing after receipt? Without (presumed) non-volatile storage, how would certain often-used items be cached, or how would it be able to have a certain minimum level of functionality (where appropriate) if its network connection should go down for minutes or hours or longer?
I find that the local device, be it in the form of a games console or a workstation or even a pocket-sized distraction device, having no storage of either kind would be wholly impractical, even if it is basically the modern equivalent of a VT102 or whatever.
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@gwynnion I am trying to push them to stool samples.
I figure I might be dead by then, and it will be a gift to the world.
@knowprose @gwynnion, that's fine; piece of wood, freshly cut from one of the legs, coming right up.
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Companies know the ad market is dying and never worked well in the first place. Maybe they hope having all your data will make it better. But they know there's always a buyer of last resort willing to pay a premium for your personal information: the government.
Who needs a warrant?
@gwynnion yes and who's gonna pay for ads when 99% of internet activity is bots?
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
@gwynnion We either need to raise a stink about the technology as you propose, or we need to embrace a positive "no shame" counter to the shamelessness of the powerful. We need to recognize that the puritanical "traditional American values" are, and have always been, tools used to control the masses. The powerful always carve out exceptions for themselves, as the Epstein files reveal. So, fuck them. As long as we aren't hurting others, let's be who we want to be, do what we want to do, and recognize that issues like drugs and sexuality are regularly used to impugn and isolate citizens who are more worthy of acceptance and inclusion than these pigs.
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@lil5 Yeah agree about IRC, I would also add XMPP over tor/i2p
I added Reticulum from a different perspective… more long term, LongNow? Not now exactly …
Given how commercially mediated the internet is there is very little trust it will be available when needed most
Hence, pointing to reticulum as a network stack which could be useful to build an alternative network of networks owned by individuals and communities which is a lot harder to break, stop, censure… it's just a thought
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
AND get off the major platforms for all forms of messaging, AND operating systems AND etc
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And it's likely a good idea to learn some electronics knowledge and how to solder (incl SMD) and weld … and get a 3d printer while you still can…
Learn how to make a general purpose computer from literal scratch…
Make a computer out of ESP32, Raspberry Pico, etc…
Or find a hacker who can and make them part of your mutual aid network
Join or start a local hacker/maker space
If you want a 3D printer make sure you get it before mandatory file uploading and remote-controlled restriction systems are introduced like they are doing now in Washington and New York
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@numodular @gwynnion hello fellow mutants
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And no, Democrats cannot be trusted on this either because they're pushing for the same thing.
@gwynnion hello Colorado dems
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
@gwynnion And it will have sufficiently bad security that every criminal script kiddie will also have access.
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@lil5 Yeah agree about IRC, I would also add XMPP over tor/i2p
I added Reticulum from a different perspective… more long term, LongNow? Not now exactly …
Given how commercially mediated the internet is there is very little trust it will be available when needed most
Hence, pointing to reticulum as a network stack which could be useful to build an alternative network of networks owned by individuals and communities which is a lot harder to break, stop, censure… it's just a thought
@DLC At this point your throwing protocols over the fence. Most privacy communities are on IRC lets just use that.
I'm talking about replacing Discord, not WhatsApp, where network effects are even more prevalent.
Also running your own IRC server is much easier, than XMPP or Matrix.
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
@gwynnion@mastodon.social Well, this is already the case since 10 years ago in China. From 2016, users for all online services in China must be registered with a mobile phone number, which must be connected to your real world ID. Sadly the world is following suit...
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
@gwynnion Do you mean to be on the internet period? As in Firefox or Chrome will force you to provide your deets before you can get online? Or that social media companies will do this?
Because I don't see the first scenario happening. Jeff Bezos would lobby against this because it would cost Amazon millions, if not billions, of dollars. And then there are shopping sites like Etsy and Redbubble that would suffer. Netflix would go bankrupt.
And I don't see Mastodon caving in to this nonsense.
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To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
@gwynnion
This is already happening without the facscans/ID, but it will get worse.
Reddit, Meta, and Google Voluntarily Gave DHS Info of Anti-ICE Users, Report Says
DHS is expanding its use of administrative subpoenas, which don't come from judges.
Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)
