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  3. Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

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  • mhd@tilde.zoneM mhd@tilde.zone

    @jwz Works for the code side of things, fails with music, though. You can't just lock people in with a bunch of GPUs and get Rumours.

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    #29

    @mhd Ok god damn!!

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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      "RFKjr's cocaine told me what vegetables to stuff up my butt."

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      @jwz best to stick to the old ways - red peppers and milk. bowie knew what he was doing!

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

        I shall demonstrate!

        (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

        "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

        You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

        In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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        @jwz "Look, we're putting cocaine in Firefox, but you'll be able to opt out if you don't want it. Just don't inhale."

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

          I shall demonstrate!

          (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

          "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

          You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

          In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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          #32

          @jwz Only difference is that cocaine sometimes brings creative thought, see Stephen King for instance...

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          • unlambda@hachyderm.ioU unlambda@hachyderm.io

            @jwz That's actually pretty much exactly his point too. He explicitly states:

            "It would seem that we are addicted to a new drug, and we don’t understand all of its effects yet. But one of them is massive fatigue, every day.

            "[...] is genuinely addictive. The better you get at it, the more you want to use it. It’s simultaneously satisfying, frustrating, and exhilarating. It doles out dopamine and adrenaline shots like they’re on a fire sale.

            "Many have likened it to a slot machine. You pull a lever with each prompt, and get random rewards and sometimes amazing “payouts.” No wonder it’s addictive."

            Even the fucking boosters are talking about it as an addiction that capital is exploiting because it lights up money sign in their eyes. This is how the boosters are describing it.

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            @unlambda @jwz

            The slot machine metaphor is more apt than ever.

            If generative “AI”-assisted programming in general is like playing an old-school slot machine from 50 years ago - you know, mechanical reels, three or four symbols each, one coin per pull - then programming with “agentic” generative “AI” is like playing one of those horrifying multi-line slots where you can put 10 (or more) bets up simultaneously, and you get multiple dopamine hits from “winning” 4 or 6 bets when you’ve paid for 10.

            The biggest gen-“AI” coding boosters right now can scarcely describe *what* they’re building, or planning to build, with their supposedly enhanced tools or skills, beyond what seems to be an ever-increasing number of “agents”. It really does feel like too many of them — the ones who are dominating the pro-gen-“AI” side of the discourse — are caught in the same sort of doom loop as people who are getting sucked into playing ever more elaborate slots for ever increasing amounts of money.

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            • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

              @jwz "Look, we're putting cocaine in Firefox, but you'll be able to opt out if you don't want it. Just don't inhale."

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              @theorangetheme It is completely opt-in. Your room comes equipped with a mirror, a spread-out line and a stainless straw, but if you call down to the concierge desk, someone will come up and flush that down the toilet for you. If that's really what you want. By the way here is a pamphlet about our ethical cocaine initiative.

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                @theorangetheme It is completely opt-in. Your room comes equipped with a mirror, a spread-out line and a stainless straw, but if you call down to the concierge desk, someone will come up and flush that down the toilet for you. If that's really what you want. By the way here is a pamphlet about our ethical cocaine initiative.

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                @jwz We regret to inform you that the bellhop will hold you down and cram your nostrils full of nose clams beginning with the next release.

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

                  I shall demonstrate!

                  (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

                  "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

                  You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

                  In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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                  @jwz @theinternetiscrack do you agree..?

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

                    I shall demonstrate!

                    (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

                    "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

                    You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

                    In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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                    #37

                    @jwz “The ‘Godfather of Cocaine’ says he's ‘very sad’ about what his life's work has become”

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                    • dpnash@c.imD dpnash@c.im

                      @unlambda @jwz

                      The slot machine metaphor is more apt than ever.

                      If generative “AI”-assisted programming in general is like playing an old-school slot machine from 50 years ago - you know, mechanical reels, three or four symbols each, one coin per pull - then programming with “agentic” generative “AI” is like playing one of those horrifying multi-line slots where you can put 10 (or more) bets up simultaneously, and you get multiple dopamine hits from “winning” 4 or 6 bets when you’ve paid for 10.

                      The biggest gen-“AI” coding boosters right now can scarcely describe *what* they’re building, or planning to build, with their supposedly enhanced tools or skills, beyond what seems to be an ever-increasing number of “agents”. It really does feel like too many of them — the ones who are dominating the pro-gen-“AI” side of the discourse — are caught in the same sort of doom loop as people who are getting sucked into playing ever more elaborate slots for ever increasing amounts of money.

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                      @dpnash @unlambda This.... is not how comedy works

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                      • mhd@tilde.zoneM mhd@tilde.zone

                        @jwz Works for the code side of things, fails with music, though. You can't just lock people in with a bunch of GPUs and get Rumours.

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                        @mhd @jwz I dunno, some of these dudes seem like they want to bang the LLMs, which is another key part of the Rumours equation.

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

                          I shall demonstrate!

                          (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

                          "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

                          You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

                          In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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                          @jwz There just aren't enough AI-related overdose fatalities for this analogy to really work for me.

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            @unlambda The first rule of cocaine club is always talk about cocaine club.

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                            #41

                            @jwz @unlambda
                            i was recently told by an AI-booster family member of a new code platform they use and how amazing it is.
                            the platform's name? "dopamine".

                            for real.

                            AI-bros really went from "no it's not addictive" to "hell yeah get addicted to that high!!!"

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                            • hairyvisionary@fosstodon.orgH hairyvisionary@fosstodon.org

                              @jwz There just aren't enough AI-related overdose fatalities for this analogy to really work for me.

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                              #42

                              @hairyvisionary Give it a minute

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                              • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                                @mhd @jwz I dunno, some of these dudes seem like they want to bang the LLMs, which is another key part of the Rumours equation.

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                                @swelljoe @jwz Were some Minimoogs irreparably damaged back then?

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                                • hairyvisionary@fosstodon.orgH hairyvisionary@fosstodon.org

                                  @jwz There just aren't enough AI-related overdose fatalities for this analogy to really work for me.

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                                  @hairyvisionary @jwz ... okay, maybe, but there aren't zero AI overdose fatalities.

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

                                    I shall demonstrate!

                                    (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

                                    "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

                                    You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

                                    In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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                                    That's a feature in Wafrn already


                                    #wafrn
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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      Everything written by AI boosters tracks much more clearly if you simply replace "AI" with "cocaine".

                                      I shall demonstrate!

                                      (Not linking to OP, because it's trash.)

                                      "Let’s pretend you’re the only person at your company using cocaine.

                                      You decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison. [...]

                                      In this scenario, you capture 100% of the value from your adopting cocaine."

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                                      #46

                                      @jwz cocaine - it’s got “AI” right in the middle of it

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                                      • cwicseolfor@zeroes.caC cwicseolfor@zeroes.ca

                                        @troy_frizzell @jwz Like on the one hand this is extremely apt and funny and on the other my workplace was dominated by three-energy-drink/day salesmen and when management figured that out they started having us compete to earn energy drinks on every Xth sale.

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                                        @cwicseolfor @troy_frizzell @jwz

                                        at least they weren't incentivizing with anti-cheese pills

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                                        • unspeaker@mastodon.socialU unspeaker@mastodon.social

                                          @cwicseolfor @troy_frizzell @jwz

                                          at least they weren't incentivizing with anti-cheese pills

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                                          @unspeaker @troy_frizzell @jwz Cheese was the only thing keeping me going a lot of that era. Coworkers literally bribed me with cheese on more than one occasion.

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