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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something

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  • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

    @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes now I want to hear more about this operating system. Do you remember the company name? The term os 2 isn't very easy to search.

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    @loke @hacks4pancakes They were a Princeton, New Jersey-based company. I have looked, and never found anything. It was so pre-Internet that I'm pretty sure it's lost in the folds of time and worn-out pages of the paper prospectus.

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    • vegai@sauna.socialV vegai@sauna.social

      @hacks4pancakes "alleged grassy knoll ear shots" -- what's that about?

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      @vegai Trump and his ear bullet

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      • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

        @loke @hacks4pancakes They were a Princeton, New Jersey-based company. I have looked, and never found anything. It was so pre-Internet that I'm pretty sure it's lost in the folds of time and worn-out pages of the paper prospectus.

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        @loke @hacks4pancakes More info I just thought of, it predated OS/2, probably 1984 (also ironic).

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        • cford@toot.thoughtworks.comC cford@toot.thoughtworks.com

          @hacks4pancakes Why do we think "debate" is the right way to explore points of view?

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          @cford I think it's mostly that many a) men, and b) people in tech do honestly believe that they have a more reasonable, more logical, more correct view of whatever is being discussed than the layman, and sometimes even than people with somehow less knowledge on the subject (or at least they think the other party has less knowledge, often without bothering to check). The urge to correct somebody may stem either from an honest desire to teach them, or from an egotistical desire to demonstrate one's own superiority. Combine the two, and men in tech are, in some ways, indeed the worst.

          Please note that I am not excusing anybody's behavior; people MUST learn to question their own PoV, and people absolutely MUST learn to treat others as human beings.

          And yes, I do say all of this with a full realization that I have behaved like the man in tech that I am many times, and sometimes do it still.

          @hacks4pancakes

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            @standev @loke That page won't load for me.

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            • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

              @standev @loke That page won't load for me.

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              @RegGuy sorry, looks like a dead end

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                You’re mad because you’re so deeply invested and wired into something that me yelling that the emperor is naked makes you want to fight.

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                @hacks4pancakes so much this. It is like people are too weak to admit sunk cost fallacy outside of business contexts. I want to grab them by the shoulders DEAR DERP - IT IS IS YOU NOW

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                  @kauer But why do they attack the person that's telling the fear they have instead of addressing the fear itself? Why shoot the messenger? This will change nothing.

                  🙈 🙉 🙊 (western interpretation)

                  @hacks4pancakes

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                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                    You’re mad because you’re so deeply invested and wired into something that me yelling that the emperor is naked makes you want to fight.

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                    The one I haven’t won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasn’t dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      The one I haven’t won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasn’t dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg

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                      @hacks4pancakes Yeah. Somebody bad is gonna... yeah.

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                      • jmax@mastodon.socialJ jmax@mastodon.social

                        @hacks4pancakes Yeah. Somebody bad is gonna... yeah.

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                        @jmax hate this so much

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                        • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

                          @hacks4pancakes Decades ago, this company was claiming to have invented the operating system that would work across all computer platforms, Micro, Mini, and Mainframe. They hyped it, and it was called OS-2 (of all things, unrelated to MS OS/2). A friend who was an investor asked me to look at it. I explained in detail why it was not a good investment, and he didn't invest $50K. I was laughed at and told I was wrong.

                          Where is OS-2? A money pit that vanished a year later.

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                          @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.

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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something

                            (See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)

                            And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,

                            Within two years I’m proven extremely right.

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                            @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange I really hope I'm wrong about the bad feelings I have right now but I have no reason to think we'd be that lucky

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                            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                              I’m kinda just over people yelling at me. The more people get super angry about me saying something is fishy as hell, the more south it’s going.

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                              @hacks4pancakes the curse of Cassandra. 😞

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                              • schrotthaufen@mastodon.socialS schrotthaufen@mastodon.social

                                @hacks4pancakes This. And then there’s the massive FOMO every time bad but shiny tech gets hyped. Tech people loooove shiny things, and FOMO is the mind killer.

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                                @schrotthaufen @hacks4pancakes Something can be terrible and still become somewhat useful and unavoidably ubiquitous. Smart Phones are a great example.

                                I wish I didn't need one to live in modern society, but if I'm going to need one I want to know how they work and what fun tricks they can do. That's sort of how I see LLMs. Maybe I'm just old and tired of yelling at clouds.

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                                • lesley@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lesley@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.

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                                  @lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Don't. He'll find out eventually.

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    I’m kinda just over people yelling at me. The more people get super angry about me saying something is fishy as hell, the more south it’s going.

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                                    @hacks4pancakes I especially dislike it when people yell at you!

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