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India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c178zzw780xo

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c178zzw780xo

    This is happening all over the world especially in legal & tax departments where people who are supposed to uphold laws are using AI and creating a mess. There are no laws in place to ban AI in medical, law, or many such sensitive matters/industries where one could go homeless or worse die due to made up laws or treatments for people by LLM/AI. But, at least tech bros are making dollars? right? 🤡

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      India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c178zzw780xo

      This is happening all over the world especially in legal & tax departments where people who are supposed to uphold laws are using AI and creating a mess. There are no laws in place to ban AI in medical, law, or many such sensitive matters/industries where one could go homeless or worse die due to made up laws or treatments for people by LLM/AI. But, at least tech bros are making dollars? right? 🤡

      nixcraft@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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        I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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        @nixCraft more videos like this needed

        https://youtube.com/shorts/gPthZLTnzu8?si=GK7Qxk_wIEkhEyJF

        Of course boosters will say “you’re doing it wrong” or “that’s an old model / this model is better” etc etc.

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          I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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          @nixCraft AI is a tool. People keep using it for the wrong purpose, or in a wrong way. It's no different than trying to use a butter knife to peel potatoes, or using a paring knife as a cleaver. If you understand what this tool is, how it works, and what it can actually do it's absolutely possible to use it productively and safely. Unfortunately, using common sense neither makes headlines nor does it pump stock, so nobody is talking about it.

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            India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c178zzw780xo

            This is happening all over the world especially in legal & tax departments where people who are supposed to uphold laws are using AI and creating a mess. There are no laws in place to ban AI in medical, law, or many such sensitive matters/industries where one could go homeless or worse die due to made up laws or treatments for people by LLM/AI. But, at least tech bros are making dollars? right? 🤡

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            In another news: Ars Technica Fires Reporter After AI Controversy Involving Fabricated Quote. Benj Edwards is no longer working at Ars Technica following an AI controversy that angered readers.

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              @nixCraft AI is a tool. People keep using it for the wrong purpose, or in a wrong way. It's no different than trying to use a butter knife to peel potatoes, or using a paring knife as a cleaver. If you understand what this tool is, how it works, and what it can actually do it's absolutely possible to use it productively and safely. Unfortunately, using common sense neither makes headlines nor does it pump stock, so nobody is talking about it.

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              @nikosdion @nixCraft LLM chatbots always have an answer. Often the answer is wrong, but they still respond with certainty.

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                I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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                @nixCraft I despise AI for several reasons:
                1) AI is replacing workers and this is expected to grow
                2) AI uses a tremendous amount of resources
                3) AI is not always accurate
                4) AI is capturing our info and we don't yet fully know how it will be used

                My company keeps pushing it on all employees and so far everyone seems to be resisting.

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                  I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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                  @nixCraft

                  The learning gets reinforced when you're witnessing that you keep getting away with BS. Many things do no longer have to effectively work, but just to look as if they were.

                  The only exception being when there are physical (e.g., medical) or financial consequences that hit individual users, directly.

                  Accountability is key here. Being held financially accountable for the recommendations or decisions of the "#AI" you're selling would be a game changer.

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                    In another news: Ars Technica Fires Reporter After AI Controversy Involving Fabricated Quote. Benj Edwards is no longer working at Ars Technica following an AI controversy that angered readers.

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                    @nixCraft AI claims another job.

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                      In another news: Ars Technica Fires Reporter After AI Controversy Involving Fabricated Quote. Benj Edwards is no longer working at Ars Technica following an AI controversy that angered readers.

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                      @nixCraft roughly last 6 months or so seem to me like Ars is generating more articles than they admit. I'm not surprised about AI being used, I'm surprised Edwards had to leave.

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                        In another news: Ars Technica Fires Reporter After AI Controversy Involving Fabricated Quote. Benj Edwards is no longer working at Ars Technica following an AI controversy that angered readers.

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                        Ars Technica has fired senior AI reporter Benj Edwards following an outrage-sparking controversy involving AI-fabricated quotes.

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                        @nixCraft
                        Honestly, it sucks to see a person losing a job, but I don’t see that Ars Technica had a choice. Using AI to write an article about AI going rogue, and then failing to notice your own AI going rogue in the single most well-understood and predictable way… 🫠

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                          @nixCraft roughly last 6 months or so seem to me like Ars is generating more articles than they admit. I'm not surprised about AI being used, I'm surprised Edwards had to leave.

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                          @j4n3z @nixCraft
                          It’s making inroads everywhere. Reassuring to see they have some editorial standards though. They could have let this slide.

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                            I'm both amazed and horrfied at how much faith folks have in AIs I guess these AIs sound like con people and output really authoritative and confident info so just overrides any doubt is peoples mind. So they accept it like it is a truth and causes harm to innocent people. AI must be banned because it is not reliable. Of course, we live in time where wars are created with fake narratives so AI is not a big thing or concern to anyone.

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                            @nixCraft the con man comparison is sharp -- the US in particular (unfortunately my only area of expertise) has always loved a con man. we're the land of MLMs and get-rich-quick schemes. melville's "the confidence-man"; gaddis's "the recognitions" -- it's a theme people have been calling for centuries, and it's only getting worse. now that you can claim the con man as an extension of yourself, of course we, at least, will love it

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                              India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c178zzw780xo

                              This is happening all over the world especially in legal & tax departments where people who are supposed to uphold laws are using AI and creating a mess. There are no laws in place to ban AI in medical, law, or many such sensitive matters/industries where one could go homeless or worse die due to made up laws or treatments for people by LLM/AI. But, at least tech bros are making dollars? right? 🤡

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                              @nixCraft I don't understand why there's such an endless supply of otherwise intelligent people who somehow didn't get the memo that chatbots are unreliable, and should never be used for anything important unless all their output has been rigorously fact-checked by a human (negating the whole purpose of using a chatbot in the first place!).

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