It's not entirely new; but, with the rampant proliferation of #LLM usage in software, I'm not exactly thrilled(actually, I'm very annoyed) in having to re-evaluate my personal heirarchy of trust when it comes to the computing that I use daily.
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It's not entirely new; but, with the rampant proliferation of #LLM usage in software, I'm not exactly thrilled(actually, I'm very annoyed) in having to re-evaluate my personal heirarchy of trust when it comes to the computing that I use daily.
For me, it's always been a trade-off between the practicality of "getting shit done" and the financial, ethical, social externalites.
I have, literally, zero monies and limited time in the day to combat ever encroaching challenges to my sense of "trust". The infiltration of LLM use into my daily tech eco-system makes it more annoying ethically hazardous.
It's not like we haven't been here before in regards to how much "trust" that I put in the systems that I use daily:
- 10 year old #Lenovo laptop
- 4 year old #Android phone
- #Debian #Linux
- Every single application/library I install via pip/cargo/flatpak/etc.I've already made a ton of trade-offs re: security, privacy, etc.
I've put a lot of "trust" over the years in these systems/platforms to allow me to get my jobs done, becoming more educated, knowledgeable & skilled.
I don't _really_ have much of a choice in the use of many of my daily tools(remember, $0!).
It's a real fuckin' pain in the ass when one has to start doubting and scrutinizing the foundational tools(e.g. #vim) that one relies upon every day.
All as a result of untrustworthy 3rd parties(OpenAI, Anthropic, et. al.) encroaching upon a previously flawed, but kinda-sorta generally reliable eco-system.
Eh. This one kind of got away from me. So it goes.
@kevinbowen I'm not aware of AI encroachment on old established tools. Got an example?
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@kevinbowen I'm not aware of AI encroachment on old established tools. Got an example?
Andrew Radev (@AndrewRadev@hachyderm.io)
Attached: 1 image Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind
Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)
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Andrew Radev (@AndrewRadev@hachyderm.io)
Attached: 1 image Vim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind
Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)
@kevinbowen oh… welp
I guess I'll be re-evaluating my tool usage as well, but so far I haven't stumbled on any aishittification.
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@kevinbowen oh… welp
I guess I'll be re-evaluating my tool usage as well, but so far I haven't stumbled on any aishittification.
At least there is some disclosure, I guess.
I think my rant/concern is the perhaps misplaced transitive "trust" that I placed in certain projects, libraries, applications, etc.Something that's been assumed/given over years & decades. The "trusted" maintainers have outsourced their work to 3rd parties that are, at best, dubious. IMO.
Perhaps it won't impact my daily use of vim; but, now I feel that I have to be somewhat less trusting as a result of their development decisions. I honestly dont' know.
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It's not entirely new; but, with the rampant proliferation of #LLM usage in software, I'm not exactly thrilled(actually, I'm very annoyed) in having to re-evaluate my personal heirarchy of trust when it comes to the computing that I use daily.
For me, it's always been a trade-off between the practicality of "getting shit done" and the financial, ethical, social externalites.
I have, literally, zero monies and limited time in the day to combat ever encroaching challenges to my sense of "trust". The infiltration of LLM use into my daily tech eco-system makes it more annoying ethically hazardous.
It's not like we haven't been here before in regards to how much "trust" that I put in the systems that I use daily:
- 10 year old #Lenovo laptop
- 4 year old #Android phone
- #Debian #Linux
- Every single application/library I install via pip/cargo/flatpak/etc.I've already made a ton of trade-offs re: security, privacy, etc.
I've put a lot of "trust" over the years in these systems/platforms to allow me to get my jobs done, becoming more educated, knowledgeable & skilled.
I don't _really_ have much of a choice in the use of many of my daily tools(remember, $0!).
It's a real fuckin' pain in the ass when one has to start doubting and scrutinizing the foundational tools(e.g. #vim) that one relies upon every day.
All as a result of untrustworthy 3rd parties(OpenAI, Anthropic, et. al.) encroaching upon a previously flawed, but kinda-sorta generally reliable eco-system.
Eh. This one kind of got away from me. So it goes.
@kevinbowen I'm not an AI abstainer myself, but even I have some apprehension. I mostly just want to see people being critical of the outputs, and I don't always see that.
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At least there is some disclosure, I guess.
I think my rant/concern is the perhaps misplaced transitive "trust" that I placed in certain projects, libraries, applications, etc.Something that's been assumed/given over years & decades. The "trusted" maintainers have outsourced their work to 3rd parties that are, at best, dubious. IMO.
Perhaps it won't impact my daily use of vim; but, now I feel that I have to be somewhat less trusting as a result of their development decisions. I honestly dont' know.
@kevinbowen it's not much of an insight, but… things change! And more importantly, people responsible for things change. So once in a while one has to expect to build new habits and find new people to trust. Which sucks when you have to do it, but it could probably be looked at as an opportunity. Because not every change has to be a bad one
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@kevinbowen it's not much of an insight, but… things change! And more importantly, people responsible for things change. So once in a while one has to expect to build new habits and find new people to trust. Which sucks when you have to do it, but it could probably be looked at as an opportunity. Because not every change has to be a bad one
Heh. Yes.
Everything is, potentially, an opportunity for learning.
To me, that sounds like an empty platitude.I now have to be more inherently distrustful of someone who outsources their knowledge to a 3rd party that is known to be broken.
I now have to distinguish their previous technical capabilities from their capabilities to distinguish bullshit.
Inadvertently or not, they are placing an additional cognitive burden upon myself to discern whether or not they are capable, or are meticulous enough to be a competant gatekeeper for a bullshit machine. YMMV.I do appreciate their transparency to let me know that _I_ need to be more vigilent.
I dunno. It's a sucky position to be placed in. -
Heh. Yes.
Everything is, potentially, an opportunity for learning.
To me, that sounds like an empty platitude.I now have to be more inherently distrustful of someone who outsources their knowledge to a 3rd party that is known to be broken.
I now have to distinguish their previous technical capabilities from their capabilities to distinguish bullshit.
Inadvertently or not, they are placing an additional cognitive burden upon myself to discern whether or not they are capable, or are meticulous enough to be a competant gatekeeper for a bullshit machine. YMMV.I do appreciate their transparency to let me know that _I_ need to be more vigilent.
I dunno. It's a sucky position to be placed in.@kevinbowen ah, there you go: https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi
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@kevinbowen ah, there you go: https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi
@isagalaev @kevinbowen Hey, just a heads up, we found AI slop in our codebase but we rolled back to VIm 9.1.0 and carried our changes over.
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@isagalaev @kevinbowen Hey, just a heads up, we found AI slop in our codebase but we rolled back to VIm 9.1.0 and carried our changes over.
@mrmasterkeyboard @kevinbowen I say, it's not about 100% purity, but rather about effort: as long as you want to keep the code better by hand, you'll eventually find what's bad and fix it.
(And anyway, I'm not really a heavy vim user, I was just referring a friend
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