every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
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@Thebratdragon @poppyhaze that's not an exception. the modern perversion of making ancient traditions is ancient. the ancient tradition of making modern perversions is Victorian.
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@Virginicus @Thebratdragon @poppyhaze I recognise that reference!
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every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
@poppyhaze It's true. When really studying Norse culture, in particular the Vikings, which were their warrior class, you discover alot of the stereotypes came out of the mid-1800s, painting them as barbarians who wore horns. And they weren't - they were incredibly advanced. We still don't know how they made it to Canada. But there were all your typical vices, just as modern cultures have. Were they pious? No. Are we pious? Also no.
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@poppyhaze Yup.
Most of those so-called ancient traditions were cooked up in the Victorian era by guys with too much starch in their collars & too little in their spines.
Meanwhile every modern moral decay our grandparents panic about was already being practiced in caves.
Only difference is now it's on OnlyFans instead of on a rock wall.
@Gotterdammerung @poppyhaze
SighYour moral majority grandparents are/were neither moral nor the majority as there’s nothing new under the sun.
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@poppyhaze Yup.
Most of those so-called ancient traditions were cooked up in the Victorian era by guys with too much starch in their collars & too little in their spines.
Meanwhile every modern moral decay our grandparents panic about was already being practiced in caves.
Only difference is now it's on OnlyFans instead of on a rock wall.
Well now I want to go register the domain name for OnlyCaves...
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every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
@poppyhaze they'll never get me to eat one of those blasted newfangled so-called "tomatoes"!
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every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
@poppyhaze I'm quite enjoying how almost every reply reveals that folks read the word "perversion" but think "a deviation from sexual norms". The perverts.
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@poppyhaze I'm quite enjoying how almost every reply reveals that folks read the word "perversion" but think "a deviation from sexual norms". The perverts.
@zebulonmysterioso @poppyhaze "Sexual norms" in the Victorian era was "no thanks, we're British."
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every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
Sometimes even later. In local politics (from my POV) "this is how it's always been done" refers to something that had existed about 20 years when the boomers were born.
(So interwar.)
(The amount of critique in local politics we get for women keeping their own surnames or giving mother's surname to the kid is surprisingly high, considering the legistlation about giving father's surname to kid was only in the books from about 1920 - 1986.)
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Sometimes even later. In local politics (from my POV) "this is how it's always been done" refers to something that had existed about 20 years when the boomers were born.
(So interwar.)
(The amount of critique in local politics we get for women keeping their own surnames or giving mother's surname to the kid is surprisingly high, considering the legistlation about giving father's surname to kid was only in the books from about 1920 - 1986.)
Might also be important to note that due to boomers being such a big generation (as the earlier ones were culled by wars, and the later by condoms) they've been the most important focus group for both politicians and media since early 1960s. Part of the "culture wars" is that the later generations collectively have finally gotten majority due to natural reasons.
(Related: why US presidential candidates' actions during Vietnam have been a major question for a quarter+ century.)
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every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing
@poppyhaze there is a line from a song in fiddler on the roof where the main character is struggling with a new tradition his daughter is embracing, and he recognizes that his old ways were new once too. Makes me wish a lot more older people would recognize that.
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@poppyhaze "why is the world the way it is?"
<Grumps> "The Victorians. It's always the bloody Victorians"
@craignicol @poppyhaze or Henry VII
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Sometimes even later. In local politics (from my POV) "this is how it's always been done" refers to something that had existed about 20 years when the boomers were born.
(So interwar.)
(The amount of critique in local politics we get for women keeping their own surnames or giving mother's surname to the kid is surprisingly high, considering the legistlation about giving father's surname to kid was only in the books from about 1920 - 1986.)
@iju @poppyhaze that calvin's dad dichotomy meme but it's every timeless tradition either being from when the boomers were kids or from some nationalist cultural reconstruction effort from the 19th century -
...and every modern perversion
an ancient phenomenon that predates writing
or a perfectly natural human adaptation in the face of an environment being reshaped by new technology
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@poppyhaze Yup.
Most of those so-called ancient traditions were cooked up in the Victorian era by guys with too much starch in their collars & too little in their spines.
Meanwhile every modern moral decay our grandparents panic about was already being practiced in caves.
Only difference is now it's on OnlyFans instead of on a rock wall.
@Gotterdammerung @poppyhaze I saw her on OnlyRock a few millenia ago, good content
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