Just read a paper that included an "I trust companies..." measure in their "AI receptivity" outcome.
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Just read a paper that included an "I trust companies..." measure in their "AI receptivity" outcome. It's becoming a textbook classic now to just bundle a BUNCH of evaluative, affect, and cognitive appraisals into something and decide it's about AI when the face validity of the items says otherwise
This is very annoying and will absolutely distort estimates of what people believe/don't believe and what factors drive/don't drive their real-world choices
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This is very annoying and will absolutely distort estimates of what people believe/don't believe and what factors drive/don't drive their real-world choices
This actually bothers me more than people calling ML AI and vice versa
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This actually bothers me more than people calling ML AI and vice versa
Sometimes I really wonder what academics are doing with their time. You take like three years to run three online surveys, you can't pilot test and construct test your surveys?
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Sometimes I really wonder what academics are doing with their time. You take like three years to run three online surveys, you can't pilot test and construct test your surveys?
I keep trying to use your studies in my real-world work and I CAN'T.
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I keep trying to use your studies in my real-world work and I CAN'T.
@grimalkina I feel a similar pain so hard when it comes to claimed results in academic software, claims about amazing progress that we can't see or re-use at all because of some and sometimes none reasons. I spent a decade at Moz begging academics to show their work, and got crickets. I have stickers, you want a shirt, we can get you the shirt! I will _make you famous_, just give me something I can use!
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Just read a paper that included an "I trust companies..." measure in their "AI receptivity" outcome. It's becoming a textbook classic now to just bundle a BUNCH of evaluative, affect, and cognitive appraisals into something and decide it's about AI when the face validity of the items says otherwise
@grimalkina That doesn't seem to make much sense.
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@grimalkina That doesn't seem to make much sense.
@GinevraCat changes what you mean by AI receptivity at least.
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@GinevraCat changes what you mean by AI receptivity at least.
@grimalkina Yup. I also don't understand why you should be measuring that in the first place anyway.
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@grimalkina I feel a similar pain so hard when it comes to claimed results in academic software, claims about amazing progress that we can't see or re-use at all because of some and sometimes none reasons. I spent a decade at Moz begging academics to show their work, and got crickets. I have stickers, you want a shirt, we can get you the shirt! I will _make you famous_, just give me something I can use!
@mhoye it's ................ something I try to find a productive way to express thoughts about. It's a lot
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@grimalkina Yup. I also don't understand why you should be measuring that in the first place anyway.
@GinevraCat in this case they were asking what might be useful predictors of who is more or less receptive to AI which I think is something that's interesting to understand. Just don't trust the measure validity
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@GinevraCat in this case they were asking what might be useful predictors of who is more or less receptive to AI which I think is something that's interesting to understand. Just don't trust the measure validity
@grimalkina Thanks for the clarification.
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@mhoye it's ................ something I try to find a productive way to express thoughts about. It's a lot
@grimalkina A decade ago now I found journal of geological sciences that accepted paper submissions via github, and the criteria was that the papers - the text, the graphs, all of it - was built from data in the repository in one step. So it was all there, raw data, the calculation methods, the text, you could see how it was all processed... it was the holy grail of published science. And they study rocks! How are these people miles ahead of us using our own tools and they study rocks!?!?
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@grimalkina A decade ago now I found journal of geological sciences that accepted paper submissions via github, and the criteria was that the papers - the text, the graphs, all of it - was built from data in the repository in one step. So it was all there, raw data, the calculation methods, the text, you could see how it was all processed... it was the holy grail of published science. And they study rocks! How are these people miles ahead of us using our own tools and they study rocks!?!?
@grimalkina Wildly unfair to geologists, obviously, but "why can we not have the nice things that the people who rub rocks on other rocks have" still haunts me.
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@grimalkina Wildly unfair to geologists, obviously, but "why can we not have the nice things that the people who rub rocks on other rocks have" still haunts me.
@mhoye @grimalkina Is this a thing that would actually be useful? That is, some kind of public managed git repository that does what the geologists do?
I guess what I'm asking is this thing not happening just because there's no clearly designated place and set of procedures that publications/fields/whatever can point to and say "do this, put it here, this is where the requirements and instructions on how live"?
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@mhoye @grimalkina Is this a thing that would actually be useful? That is, some kind of public managed git repository that does what the geologists do?
I guess what I'm asking is this thing not happening just because there's no clearly designated place and set of procedures that publications/fields/whatever can point to and say "do this, put it here, this is where the requirements and instructions on how live"?
@mhoye @grimalkina (Because frankly if the only big thing stopping this is $20k/year for the services and someone going "goddamn it, we are just going to do it", well... things can be done)
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@mhoye it's ................ something I try to find a productive way to express thoughts about. It's a lot
I ended up writing punk songs for a lot of stuff that has transcended the realm of polite conversation.
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@mhoye @grimalkina (Because frankly if the only big thing stopping this is $20k/year for the services and someone going "goddamn it, we are just going to do it", well... things can be done)
The core challenge of changing academic publishing is that academic institutions have _actively sought out_ this situation specifically because it let those academics avoid personal accountability for denying publication, promotion, and tenure positions to people they'd be working with for decades.
One fundamental reason for the managerial-caste capture of the academy is that academics didn't want the job, actively sucked at doing it and abdicated whenever possible.
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The core challenge of changing academic publishing is that academic institutions have _actively sought out_ this situation specifically because it let those academics avoid personal accountability for denying publication, promotion, and tenure positions to people they'd be working with for decades.
One fundamental reason for the managerial-caste capture of the academy is that academics didn't want the job, actively sucked at doing it and abdicated whenever possible.
@wordshaper @grimalkina It takes a tectonic, haha, commitment from groups wanting to change that, but the hosting is not the difficult thing, the difficult thing is changing systems of recognition in academic settings to include what are still generally novel methods of publication as "a publication".
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@grimalkina Wildly unfair to geologists, obviously, but "why can we not have the nice things that the people who rub rocks on other rocks have" still haunts me.
@mhoye @grimalkina Most researchers I meet avoid getting involved with IT like the plague. I have shown people, over ten years ago, that you can almost completely automate the data gathering. Surveys, mobile apps and sensors integrated. Experiments running for months so they could have people from specific groups participate if and when they found them. Most of this work landed in the trash 🤨
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@mhoye @grimalkina Most researchers I meet avoid getting involved with IT like the plague. I have shown people, over ten years ago, that you can almost completely automate the data gathering. Surveys, mobile apps and sensors integrated. Experiments running for months so they could have people from specific groups participate if and when they found them. Most of this work landed in the trash 🤨
@sandorspruit @mhoye if I had managed to survive academia I would've loved your work
