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  • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

    In Which I Am Apparently A Child...

    So, I saw today's news about DarkSword, and although I don't have anything with iOS that old (v18.7 or older), I noticed a new version of iOS out (26.4) and decided to update.

    Bad move. Bad, bad move.

    iOS 26.4 implements age verification.

    It's very simple - just scan your credit card or government id and bingo.

    I don't have a credit card.

    The government ID is apparently:

    - a driving license (which I don't have)
    - a passport (which isn't scanning)

    1/2

    axel_hartmann@digitalcourage.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @gmh - which country?

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    • axel_hartmann@digitalcourage.socialA axel_hartmann@digitalcourage.social

      @gmh - which country?

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      @axel_hartmann Rainy Plague Brexitlandia, for my sins...

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      • castaway@fosstodon.orgC castaway@fosstodon.org

        @gmh can you visit tech support from a non-apple device.. if available?

        gmh@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        @castaway Got the 'you must log in to view this content' when I tried. Sighed, linked my Apple ID to the community, verified it using my phone and got that message.

        I know what the post I wanted to read was about, since I could find the first few lines on a search engine, but try to view it on the community forum and... not so much.

        There's probably some way around it, but it's just the cherry on the shit sandwich...

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        • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

          @castaway Got the 'you must log in to view this content' when I tried. Sighed, linked my Apple ID to the community, verified it using my phone and got that message.

          I know what the post I wanted to read was about, since I could find the first few lines on a search engine, but try to view it on the community forum and... not so much.

          There's probably some way around it, but it's just the cherry on the shit sandwich...

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          @gmh Ugh! Agree.. As an App-dev I'm wondering if this also applies to the (newly allowed I believe) ability to sell IAPs outside of the app store..

          I assume not since I don't see how they could. Of course that doesn't help you if the app dev hasn't implemented external payments..

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          • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

            @castaway Got the 'you must log in to view this content' when I tried. Sighed, linked my Apple ID to the community, verified it using my phone and got that message.

            I know what the post I wanted to read was about, since I could find the first few lines on a search engine, but try to view it on the community forum and... not so much.

            There's probably some way around it, but it's just the cherry on the shit sandwich...

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            @gmh Hmm I can read this one even not logged in: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250995863?sortBy=rank .. any use?

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            • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

              So, until I can get the passport working as ID, my iPhone is feature-limited.

              I can live without the ability to download 18+ apps.

              The ability to make in-app purchases? That's a bit more severe; there are plenty of things you can buy in-app that aren't porn or loot boxes.

              And until I can somehow get this fixed, I'm a child.

              To add insult to injury, I tried to look at the Apple community for similar reports and got this...

              Apparently, tech support is for grownups!

              Whoop de fucking doo. 2/2

              bryan@dusty.ninjaB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gmh i thought they could verify via a credit card? 🤔

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              • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                @gmh i thought they could verify via a credit card? 🤔

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                @bryan not sure which part of "I don't have a credit card", which @gmh wrote in their post, you missed.

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                • jik@federate.socialJ jik@federate.social

                  @bryan not sure which part of "I don't have a credit card", which @gmh wrote in their post, you missed.

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                  @jik @gmh
                  I only saw the boosted post.

                  I’m sorry.

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                  • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                    @jik @gmh
                    I only saw the boosted post.

                    I’m sorry.

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                    @bryan @jik Hey, everyone does it from time to time, no worries.

                    One thing that does annoy me slightly is that scanning your passport should apparently work.

                    If you search, you'll find any number of people a couple of weeks ago saying 'I'm using the beta, passport scanning isn't working' (e.g. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256262372 - which I can't read because I'm not old enough!)

                    Yet the release seems to have just been rolled out regardless without fixing this, which is really shoddy.

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                    • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                      @bryan @jik Hey, everyone does it from time to time, no worries.

                      One thing that does annoy me slightly is that scanning your passport should apparently work.

                      If you search, you'll find any number of people a couple of weeks ago saying 'I'm using the beta, passport scanning isn't working' (e.g. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256262372 - which I can't read because I'm not old enough!)

                      Yet the release seems to have just been rolled out regardless without fixing this, which is really shoddy.

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                      @bryan @jik See also https://piunikaweb.com/2026/03/25/apple-ios-26-4-age-verification-uk-release/ - I'm a long way from being the only person in this particular boat.

                      *sigh* - it's an odious and ineffective law (see https://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaign/stop-state-censorship-of-online-speech/) and Apple's compliance has been implemented in a way that inconveniences many people who've been using Apple products for decades.

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                      • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                        @bryan @jik Hey, everyone does it from time to time, no worries.

                        One thing that does annoy me slightly is that scanning your passport should apparently work.

                        If you search, you'll find any number of people a couple of weeks ago saying 'I'm using the beta, passport scanning isn't working' (e.g. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256262372 - which I can't read because I'm not old enough!)

                        Yet the release seems to have just been rolled out regardless without fixing this, which is really shoddy.

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                        @gmh
                        Sorry to read you’re having problems.

                        I also can’t get my ID (state drivers license) to add to my wallet in Hawaii. Each attempt takes like 2-3 weeks for a rejection. State and Apple just tell me to “keep trying”.

                        I’m glad this isn’t hindering me from being an adult though… 😬

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                        • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                          @gmh
                          Sorry to read you’re having problems.

                          I also can’t get my ID (state drivers license) to add to my wallet in Hawaii. Each attempt takes like 2-3 weeks for a rejection. State and Apple just tell me to “keep trying”.

                          I’m glad this isn’t hindering me from being an adult though… 😬

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                          @bryan Eh, so far it's not been a problem. I don't use the apps covered by it, and I don't buy game-related stuff on my phone.

                          But being hobbled on a device I own, with an account I've been using for 16 years, in the name of a law passed by authoritarian control freaks?

                          Yeah, that sucks and it pisses me off mightily.

                          (And not being able to read Apple support forums because I'm not verified is just the cherry on top...)

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                          • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                            @bryan Eh, so far it's not been a problem. I don't use the apps covered by it, and I don't buy game-related stuff on my phone.

                            But being hobbled on a device I own, with an account I've been using for 16 years, in the name of a law passed by authoritarian control freaks?

                            Yeah, that sucks and it pisses me off mightily.

                            (And not being able to read Apple support forums because I'm not verified is just the cherry on top...)

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                            @gmh
                            If it was possible to trade problems with government… 😬 can I have adult verification instead of a new war? 😂

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                            • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                              In Which I Am Apparently A Child...

                              So, I saw today's news about DarkSword, and although I don't have anything with iOS that old (v18.7 or older), I noticed a new version of iOS out (26.4) and decided to update.

                              Bad move. Bad, bad move.

                              iOS 26.4 implements age verification.

                              It's very simple - just scan your credit card or government id and bingo.

                              I don't have a credit card.

                              The government ID is apparently:

                              - a driving license (which I don't have)
                              - a passport (which isn't scanning)

                              1/2

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                              @gmh I’m having the same issue

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                              • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                                @gmh i thought they could verify via a credit card? 🤔

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                                @bryan @gmh people in the UK don’t generally have credit cards and they aren’t accepting debit cards

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                                • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                                  So, until I can get the passport working as ID, my iPhone is feature-limited.

                                  I can live without the ability to download 18+ apps.

                                  The ability to make in-app purchases? That's a bit more severe; there are plenty of things you can buy in-app that aren't porn or loot boxes.

                                  And until I can somehow get this fixed, I'm a child.

                                  To add insult to injury, I tried to look at the Apple community for similar reports and got this...

                                  Apparently, tech support is for grownups!

                                  Whoop de fucking doo. 2/2

                                  jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @gmh I updated to iOS 26.4 in Germany and do not see any kind of age verification. So I guess it's a UK thing?

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    @gmh I updated to iOS 26.4 in Germany and do not see any kind of age verification. So I guess it's a UK thing?

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                                    @jwildeboer Yep. Though things being what they are, you can expect to see something similar heading your way soon...

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                                    • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                                      In Which I Am Apparently A Child...

                                      So, I saw today's news about DarkSword, and although I don't have anything with iOS that old (v18.7 or older), I noticed a new version of iOS out (26.4) and decided to update.

                                      Bad move. Bad, bad move.

                                      iOS 26.4 implements age verification.

                                      It's very simple - just scan your credit card or government id and bingo.

                                      I don't have a credit card.

                                      The government ID is apparently:

                                      - a driving license (which I don't have)
                                      - a passport (which isn't scanning)

                                      1/2

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                                      @gmh so they are insisting that they have more information about me than they actually need to verify my age. All these documents have potential to access multiple sources of data- driving records, credit history, travel records- for example. Will state or provincial ID cards work?

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                                      • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                                        In Which I Am Apparently A Child...

                                        So, I saw today's news about DarkSword, and although I don't have anything with iOS that old (v18.7 or older), I noticed a new version of iOS out (26.4) and decided to update.

                                        Bad move. Bad, bad move.

                                        iOS 26.4 implements age verification.

                                        It's very simple - just scan your credit card or government id and bingo.

                                        I don't have a credit card.

                                        The government ID is apparently:

                                        - a driving license (which I don't have)
                                        - a passport (which isn't scanning)

                                        1/2

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                                        @gmh What a "coincidence" that someone has just published a vulnerability right now forcing people to update.

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                                        • gmh@mastodon.socialG gmh@mastodon.social

                                          So, until I can get the passport working as ID, my iPhone is feature-limited.

                                          I can live without the ability to download 18+ apps.

                                          The ability to make in-app purchases? That's a bit more severe; there are plenty of things you can buy in-app that aren't porn or loot boxes.

                                          And until I can somehow get this fixed, I'm a child.

                                          To add insult to injury, I tried to look at the Apple community for similar reports and got this...

                                          Apparently, tech support is for grownups!

                                          Whoop de fucking doo. 2/2

                                          digitalstefan@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @gmh I remember during the iOS beta period when age verification notices were being seen and Apple said “whoopsie, that’s just a bug!”

                                          I thought at the time “interesting how an unintended side effect of some other code randomly displayed a full age verification UI as a bug”, but here we are. Clearly the bug was “you weren’t supposed to see it yet”.

                                          Anyway my Apple ID is old enough to not make me submit documents.

                                          My Apple ID for my work phone though … ehhhh

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